Dan Rafael Has Calzaghe P4p #1: Wrong, Wrong, Wrong

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  1. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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  2. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    Yeh I don't really understand how anyone can have JC ahead of Pac. What is it, something like 6 titles in 6 different weight classes and 5 wins over 3 HOF'ers....? Not even close to debateable imo
     
  3. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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  4. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think much of the low weight class bull****. Is there really a need to seperate 122 lbs and 126 lbs fighters. Jesus christ, a big 4 lbs. Like that weight difference alone will seperate two fighters to such an extent that it is nessecary to make two weight classes, come on .

    These divisions are so very small in seperation that fighters can cut down from 3 or 4 weight classes easily. For example, I am sure a 135 fighter can cut weight, and make 122 for weigh in.
     
  5. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    how sure are you? :huh


    pac has been #2 for a long time... :-(
     
  6. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like if you see someone on the street, you would think; Damn I would like to fight that ***** but he at least outweighs me by 3 or 4 lbs. I cant take that much of a size difference. Please.

    I am not denying that Pac is an outstanding fighter, but there is no need for so many almost nothing in difference weight classes.

    If you move up from LHW to Cruiserweight, that is a 25 lbs move for one class.
     
  7. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    A lot of people scored one or both fights for Marquez, perfectly logical in that case to rank Marquez higher on a subjective hypothetical ranking system.
     
  8. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree Pacman deserves it ahead of Joe, but really you have to wait 1 year from when Floyd last fought before you can offically pass that spot up.
     
  9. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have Calzaghe at #1 as well...
     
  10. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    About the best way I can sum this up is that most of the fighters in the lower weight classes REALLY have to drain to get where they are at, while staying in peak condition. Keep in mind that Pac started out at 108 and is now fighting at 135. That is the equivalent of a middleweight going up to heavyweight and then some. You might think that 4lbs here or 8lbs there is no big deal but try boxing sometime and tell me that when your in phenominal shape 4-8 lbs is easy to cut. Its not. And then just remember that these 110-120 lb guys are a lot smaller than you, so 4 lbs for them is 8 for other bigger boxers and that 8 for them is like 16 for the average Joe (if not more). Its all relative
     
  11. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The MMA weight class system has way less classes, ranging from 155, to 170, 185, 205, HW. In MMA, Pacman would still be 20 lbs away from even making the lightest weight class.
     
  12. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    Which is exactly my point.....I guess he cannot compete in UFC, unless he starts taking some roids
     
  13. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lightheavy is at 175... to me, a 176 lber is a cruiserweight.
    25 lbs would be to make the heavy minimum weight.
     
  14. TheGreatest-915

    TheGreatest-915 Member Full Member

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    I guess you dont know much about MMA.

    There are other weight classes such as

    Flyweight 125
    Bantamweight 135
    Featherweight 145

    I guess all you watch is UFC.

    122, 126, 130 are the hardest weight classes to move around in.
    Many fighters say there speed and power don't carry to those other classes even if its only 4 pounds.
     
  15. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont know how Rafael could score the fight for BHOP and then have Slappy #1 P4P hard for me to see how he comes to this conclusion.
    Does he not comprehend what P4P means it means all things being equal who is better!!! or simply a 175 lb version of PAC or a 130 lbs version of Joe
    or am I asleep at the wheel