Who actually thinks Marciano stops Ali?

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Does Rocky stop Ali?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, I tend to agree with you on that one. It may be overstated and I’m not sure how the stats in that book were taken on cuts as none were listed. The author claims it was a myth. I’m not sure what the average amount of times a normal fighter cuts though it may just be Marciano’s are just more well known due to his notoriety but I tend to agree he cut more often then average.
     
  2. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster I check this every now and then Full Member

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    Ditto, both Boxrec and all of the Marciano biographies I've read/watched said nothing.
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Read Everett Skehan's book it has quotes from the referee of the Simmons fight.
     
  4. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn’t mean it that way either lol. I am not disputing it either way, I sincerely am interested. Yes, Rocky cut in some fights, but I don’t recall the others being borderline stoppage bad either? To me to pick that result without more evidence seems an odd prediction. But if there are other examples than I might have to eat it as a likely outcome....at this point I don’t have that knowledge
     
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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  6. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali should be favored here....but marciano may have beaten anyone since his time and im not a huge marcian o fan.....Ali by stoppage perhaps but if marciano won no shock to me.......even chuvalo got Ali on the ropes
     
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  7. Farooq

    Farooq Member banned Full Member

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    Marciano is so bad I don't even think he could stop Manny Pac. Manny Pac did win titles in 7 weight classes right? I will say Manny Pac could knock out Marciano in 1 round. Because as we all know size and weight classes mean nothing. Skill is the only thing that matters.
     
  8. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Ali in his prime doesn't get stopped.
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    @McGrain surely something can be done about this troll?
     
  10. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep, Marciano stops him.

    Everyone has to make up limits for Rocky because he doesn't actually have any recorded. There is nothing but fantasy how-tos based on a vehement belief in just a little more of something that failed would surely do Marciano in while detracting from the evidence to the contrary with semantical statistic that do not, in any way, speak to any physical action or reaction ever taken or could have been taken by any party in question.

    I don't much care for fantasy fan fictions. Especially since, even now, after years of being emotionally invested in this sport, I don't see any evidence any of you have bothered to learn some basic kinesiology.

    Sweet science indeed. The gap between us is incommuncatable, you already know better, you already deal in alternative facts and call that science. I can not teach a group of people what is the physics of boxing when they've already learned that from men they view in god-like exaltation. It's very much like trying to teach any martial art fans. Kung Fu people believe in things you find silly right? So do you bubba.
     
  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    Don't think that happens either, but it's more likely than Ali getting stopped.

    I see a UD with Marciano taking maybe one or two of the fifteen rounds.
     
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  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Clay/Ali stopped two monsters that folks seemed to think were unbeatable. And frankly, I think either of those would have stopped Marciano. If Ali gets going like he did against Williams, Marciano's face will literally fall off his face unless an empathetic ref intervenes.
     
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  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He's been banned multiple times,but ,like a moth to flame-----

    Reading further down, I'm not sure if you are referring to the post above or below yours!
     
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  14. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes he did stop Liston and Foreman, but he went the distance with Doug Jones and George Chuvalo, both lesser scalps than Rocky.

    Ali himself said Marciano would be a difficult fight and he was sore all over after sparring with him.

    Ali might stop the Rock, but I think a one-sided UD is more likely.

    BTW, Prime Rocky destroys that version of the Big Cat, maybe even quicker than Ali did.
     
  15. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not so sure Marciano would win this vote by a landslide in 1970.
     
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