what would be Canelo's ATG rating if

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  1. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog My name is Buck and I'm here to... Full Member

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    We'll see. You could be right.
     
  2. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Momento mori Full Member

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    Didn't stop loma from losing
     
  3. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    It's not 2.3 it's 4.3. Mayweather, Trout, Lara, GGG 1, and GGG2. Nobody else has ever gotten four gift decisions that I know of. One or two, fine. But not four. This **** stinks. If you can't smell it, then you are in heavy denial.
     
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  4. Russell

    Russell VIP Member Full Member

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    Forgetting the Mosley bout? Yeah, that one. :lol:
     
  5. Stefz

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    Loma has no where near the fame Canelo or AJ has. They are both superstars in there home country. Both of those countries have a highly profitable boxing/sponsorship market.

    https://www.anthonyjoshua.com/sponsors/ - Hugo Boss, Lynx, Under armor, Landrover and beats by dre - all huge sponsors.

    Canelo was #15 highest paid athlete in 2018 according to forbes.

    Canelo Net worth as per forbes - $44.5 million
    Anthony Joshua net worth as per forbes - $39 million
    Vasiliy Lomachenko net worth Celebrityworth.net (only source i could find) - $8 million

    just over 20% of the value of AJ.

    Other Lower classed fighters who have value than Loma are;
    David Diaz was worth $15million
    Carl Froch is worth $20million
    Adrian Broner is worth $9million as per CW.net
    Tony Bellews is worth $13million
    even Deontay Wilder's net worth is $16million....

    so yes, Loma isn't the gravy train.
     
  6. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Momento mori Full Member

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    He was being groomed for it they gave him title shots with no real pro experience
     
  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Canelo is not as good as MvCall Oliver KO'd the champ Canelo gad to rely on Bob Bennett & his gang, Fishnets $$$$ & Vegas corruption to steal those titles for him Without his back up group canelo would have FIVE losses at least on his record Floyd,GGGx2, Lara & Trout
     
  8. Salty Dog

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    GGG2 was close. It is unreasonable to characterize it as a gift. Here's another: I think he legit beat Lara. I'm not alone. I'll admit it was close and had it gone the other way I don't think I would have cried robbery. At any rate, among the great and arguably so Canelo is hardly alone in being the recipient of unpopular decisions. Do I really need to make a list for you?
     
  9. Gil Gonzalez

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    Wasn’t Carbo in federal prison by 1964?
     
  10. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Just the ones who've received 4 or more gift decisions. I'll wait.
     
  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Yeah, but apparently you can still pull strings from the joint, and you don't have to turn in your mafia card at the door.
     
  12. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog My name is Buck and I'm here to... Full Member

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    4 is ridiculous. You are not being rational. We're done.
     
  13. Stefz

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    Still no where near the value of the others. Nor is he a "american hero".
     
  14. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Momento mori Full Member

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    Last I checked Aj nor canelo where american heroes
     
  15. Stefz

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    Canelo is the mexican hero (Huge boxing nation fan base, more so than USA)
    AJ is the british hero to general public.

    By american hero, i meant the term of a fighter who will only fight in there home state/country/arena.

    Joshua - Wembly/Cardiff
    Canelo - Mexico/Vegas
    Mayweather - Vegas
    Andre ward - Oakland/Vegas
     
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