Julio Cesar Chavez (late 80s) vs. Oscar De La Hoya (1995) @ 135

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  1. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Julio Cesar Chavez by KO or TKO:deal
     
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  2. JM22

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    Exactly:deal
     
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  3. DINAMITA

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    Leija had no business in the ring coz he got stopped. I don't remember too many people saying that before the fight. Same with Hernandez.

    Ruelas was at 135 mate, trust me.

    Many memories are clouded about Chavez at 135. He was taken to points by the very average Juan LaPorta, and the great Dwight Pratchett (12-6), and his brilliant KO record included a win over the magnificent Roberto Collins Lindo (record 1 win, FOURTEEN losses) and that was in 1986!

    My point is Chavez was a great at 135, but De La Hoya was too big, too strong, too sharp, and would jabbed and moved and pounded out a points win.

    Why are we always so reluctant to accept the fighters of our time being as good as the older guys??
     
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    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if meldric taylor had the fast hands and enough fire power to do what he did to chavez .. oscar completely blows him out of the water at any time ...

    too big ..

    too strong..

    too fast...
     
    CottoDaBodykill, Jun 20, 2008
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  5. DoumB

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    excellent post, oscar would had beaten chavez 10/10 times, simply too good for chavez and too big, the ones who say chavez would had destroyed DLH know nothing about boxing or never saw oscar at 135 or even JCC at 135, not saying chavez is not great, simply a fighter like oscar will always have JCC's number.
     
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  6. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    No version of Chavez beats Oscar. Oscar is simply too much in every department.
     
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  7. IsaL

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    So true. A fighter like Chavez is taylored made for a fighter like Oscar.
     
    IsaL, Jun 20, 2008
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  8. DoumB

    DoumB HOYA KO1 PRESSCOT Full Member

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    yep, tall, rangy, good jab and solid all around boxing skills
     
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  9. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My bad, I could have sworn Ruelas was at 140. I meant by saying that Leija and Hernandez were coming from 130. Why Hernandez jumped up to 135 (Money) to lose and then went back to 130.

    Juan Laporte was a uncrowned champion. He was an elite fighter and the Chavez fight was well documented and talked about for years. Even with all that you have mentioned, I believe Oscar was still green even with the titles. I believe these are weights he forced himself to attain so that he could find a way to attain the six division quest he was after. Oscar was a better WW then 130 or 135.
     
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  10. Thread Stealer

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    None of those guys were at 135.
     
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  11. Samurai

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    Close fight
     
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  12. sweet_scientist

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    I saw him be given ALL he could handle at 135 from John John Molina. :good
     
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  13. IsaL

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    okay. He handled it enough to win. Tell me one fighter who never had a close fight. Even your Whitaker and Mayweather have had close fights against good but not great opposition.
     
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  14. DINAMITA

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    All of them were at 135.
     
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  15. Thread Stealer

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    No, they were at 130.

    Chavez's biggest struggles pre-Taylor (minus that early DQ) were at 130, against Laporte and Lockridge.

    Chavez mowed through 135 during his short stay there.
     
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