Ring's May 2017 Issue The Greatest All Time Heavyweights.

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Thirty panelists were polled to come up with their selections .
    Trainers.
    Teddy Atlas
    Pat Burns
    Virgil Hunter
    DonTurner
    Matchmakers
    Eric Bottjer
    Don Chargin
    Don Elbaum
    Bobby Goodman
    Ron Katz
    Mike Marchionte
    Russel Peltz
    Bruce Trampler
    Media
    Al Bernstein
    Ron Borges
    Gareth Davies
    Norm Frauenheim
    Jerry Izenberg
    Harold Lederman
    Don Rafael
    Paulie Malinaggi
    Michael Rosenthal


    Historians
    Craig Hamilton
    Steve Lott
    Don McrRae
    Bob Mee
    Clay Moyle
    Randy Roberts
    Adam Pollack




    The result?

    1.Ali
    2.Louis
    3.Johnson
    4. Marciano
    5.Holmes
    6.Dempsey
    7.Foreman
    8.Frazier
    9.Tyson
    10. Liston

    11.Lewis & Holyfield tied
    13.Tunney
    14.Sullivan
    15.Jeffries
    16.W Klitchko
    17 .V Klitchko
    18. Corbett
    19.Bowe
    20.Fitzsimmons

    Good List? Bad List?
     
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  2. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I take it this is legacy Mac?
     
  3. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've seen worst lists.

    I don't know, a lot of the positions are interchangeable but the top two are rock solid choices and the rest merit consideration and should jockey for position accordingly. It depends on preference and whether we're talking accomplishments over h2h matchups. I think Lennox Lewis should be higher as should Wlad but it is pretty tough to come to a definitive conclusion from position 3-10 in my view.
     
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    Not a bad list. Although I always have a hard time putting Dempsey and Johnson on these lists. I am terribly biased pre 30s /40s though
     
  5. 88Chris05

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    Maricano and Dempsey too high. Lennox and Jeffries too low. That aside, it's generally not too bad.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    I'd drop Johnson and Dempsey by quite a bit and raise Lewis by a lot too. It's not bad tho.
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I have my disagreements, but I think it's a solid list overall, same top 4 as me actually.

    The bigger changes for me would be Jeffries and Lewis up, Dempsey down, Holmes down a bit, drop Tunney, V Klitschko and Corbett for Charles, Walcott, and Schmeling.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Its a bit of every factor really.
     
  9. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For the most part I think that is a good list.
     
  10. The Malibu Mauler

    The Malibu Mauler Lakers in 5 Full Member

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    It's a decent list imo, but I think Tunney and Fitzsimmons are low, and Tyson is a little high. But overall, it's an alright list.
     
  11. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well there’s probably nothing outrageously wrong with it.
    Lewis and Holyfield maybe a bit higher, Holmes possibly at 3 but that’s just me.
    At the bottom end I’d have Fitz above Corbett
     
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    Pandering to the readership or the asylum keepers have become the inmates. Either way, same result.
     
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  13. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For a consensus list of 30 people not really too bad. I certainly would place some of them differently, but only Dempsey does not sit well with me...a little to high for my basis
     
  14. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    I think Foreman is a little too high in general in many lists, Dempsey too.

    Its pretty surprising how low Lewis is rated in comp. to lists/polls here on BF24, where he´s often almost top 5. I wouldn´t rate Foreman and Dempsey over LL personally, maybe drop Tyson/Frazier/Liston 1/2 spots also.
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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