Does a decision win, fully avenge / counteract / compensate for a stoppage loss in your opinion?

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Does a decision win, fully avenge / counteract / compensate for a stoppage loss in your opinion?

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  2. No

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  1. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kovalev lost by stoppage in the first fight against Eleider Alvaraez. In the rematch, Kovalev won by decision and failed to score a stoppage win in similar brutal fashion as Alvarez did on him.

    So in your opinion, does the decision win in the rematch, fully avenge / counteract / compensate for the stoppage loss from the first fight?
     
    Luis Fernando, Feb 22, 2019
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  2. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Well it is a win, no matter if it's via KO or Decision.
     
    DanielDimov, Feb 22, 2019
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  3. NasalSpray

    NasalSpray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Decision win is like a draw in reality. It's judges opinion who has won, a stoppage is more definitive.
     
    NasalSpray, Feb 22, 2019
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  4. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends..
     
    heerko koois, Feb 22, 2019
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  5. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Of course it does if you win well. If you scrape by maybe not. A wins a win
     
    Ukansodoff, Feb 22, 2019
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    The other Kovalev-Alvarez thread just wasn't bad enough I guess. So you decided to double down on your idiocy. To answer your question... yeah, it ****ing does. Because schooling a guy known for his boxing skills is actually more impressive than KOing him.
     
    CST80, Feb 22, 2019
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  7. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No it doesn't. It was a shame Kovalev couldn't KO him. But it was a good win under the circumstances because Kovalev has mental demons. And maybe he has overcome some of them.
     
    MorvidusStyle, Feb 22, 2019
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  8. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    trilogy is in order if its scrape i reckon
     
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  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The better / greater fighter always does better in the rematch.
     
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  10. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    A victory is a victory. As long as there is no permament damage involved.

    A career-ending beating, imho is a diffeerent story, it cannot be avenged if not by finishing the other's career too. But there are not a lot of gatti-ward, so this is a conercase imho.

    Short answer, yes.
     
    chacal, Feb 22, 2019
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  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In the case of Kovalev/Alvarez it absolutely does.

    In the first fight, Kovalev was comprehensively outboxing Alvarez and was on the way to a decision. He got caught and couldn't recover and was dispatched. In the second fight Kovalev again comprehensively outboxed Alvarez. Only difference is he finished the job. Kovalev in both fights really showed he was superior to Alvarez. The ko loss was a case of Kovalev >>>>>>> Alvarez 9/10, the loss just happened to be lightning in a bottle, which is why Alvarez couldn't duplicate the result in the rematch.
     
    northpaw, Feb 22, 2019
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  12. brown-bomber

    brown-bomber Member Full Member

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    Kovalev didn’t KO Alvarez because Alvarez didn’t take any chances! He was reluctant to attack as he felt the power and knew charging forward against a better conditioned Kovalev would most likely render him knocked out. That and Buddy telling Kovalev to stick to boxing.
     
    brown-bomber, Feb 22, 2019
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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    You're not allowed to make threads anymore ,@Luis Fernando. I'm serious.
     
    IntentionalButt, Feb 22, 2019
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  14. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Then how do trilogies/quadrilogies work that go Fighter A/Fighter B/Fighter A or Fighter A/Fighter B/Fighter A/Fighter A?

    As according to your theory Fighter B is the better/greater fighter?
     
    Robney, Feb 22, 2019
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  15. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No. You have to judge each fight individually, and by the circumstances. Ages, weight, margin of victory, if the judges were right, etc.
     
    Gil Gonzalez, Feb 22, 2019
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