AJ floors drugs jibe

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by mark ant, Feb 22, 2019.


  1. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Joshua looks like Overeem in his juicing heyday. No six foot six athlete is supposed to look like that unless you're competing in the WWE.
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

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    The fact this accusation is coming from Miller is hilarious. I mean he's failed a doping test before and look at him, he's huge and clearly still doping, he's even refused VADA testing before.

    But the guy who resides in a country that tests it's athletes randomly at anytime 365 days a year gets called out for possible doping. You can't make this **** up.

    Miller just bringing this up to get under Joshua's skin and deflect from his own doping. We've seen a few fighters call other fighters out on doping only to be caught themselves doping.
     
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  3. VicMcCoy

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    It’s not normal Mark. Anyone with a basic knowledge of strength and conditioning knows that.

    Joshua has a huge amount of money behind him through corporate interests, sponsorships etc. If you’ve got that financial backing and you’re clever - I’m sure you can get help to negotiate the testing cycle so nothing shows up.

    Did Joshua say he was being tested thrice daily as part of his suspiciously regular trips to Dubai?
     
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  4. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury who got busted? Ye mate using a proven drug cheat as an example to back up your theory doesn't really work does it?
     
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  5. Simon Head

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    Everyone with any bodybuilding background knows Joshua and Miller have both used steroids.
     
  6. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    both those guys were obviously not juicing? lol.
     
  7. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis was a prime example.
     
  8. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they were never cut like a bodybuilder, the way holyfield, lewis, the klitschko's, joshua, and others are/were.
     
  9. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshuas growth is well within the realms of possibility, especially when you consider his late start in boxing. Well relatively late when compared to alot of champions, Joshua only started boxing in 2007.
    And at every step has showed dedication to the sport and his career trajectory.
    At each stage continually pushing himself, continually progressing.
    his training videos are ridiculous, there's no way a human that size takes hgh, the side effects would be alot clearer, his body even at its slimmest wouldn't be able to use it effectively, as it has no need for it. especially with the increase in training intensity.
    so the side effects would be ridiculous, and noticeable haha a hgh gut the guy would grow another head man, come on.
    I don't believe for one second hes a ped cheat but one thing i know for certain is a physical specimen like Joshua uses hgh wow it would do more harm than good.
     
  10. Boxcel

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    I don't think you have any idea what HGH does. Ridiculous statements lmao.

    People keep saying things about how hard these athletes train. PEDs help you recover faster so you can train with higher intensity, and more frequently. Those without PEDs will overtrain with the same routine of those on PEDs.

    Steroid use is rampant in commercial gyms, and even the most amateur sports to give people an edge. Yet people think the top fighters in the hardest and most well paying sport are natural lol. It takes a special type of competitiveness to become a top pro boxer, and they're not going to skimp on any major edge they can get in a sport where you need freakish physicality.
     
  11. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In your opinion having seen the side effects of hgh on larger than average lads, who had no need for it.
    Their physical appearance was dramatically changed in a fairly short space of time most noticeably in their facial proportions, most significantly in their forehead. I can't claim to be medically aware of the full extent of using hgh does to a person but that is what i have seen.
     
  12. BeaverDan

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    Let's face it you don't know one way or another whats fact and what's not.

    You can have an opinion and throw around stupid arse comments like "tooth fairy santa hahaha lmao" but nobody made you the authority on where the line is drawn between 'natural' and 'juicing'.

    Here's a fact, human males have been stacked (in the minority) for hundreds possibly thousands of years. It's not a new and sudden phenomenon.
     
  13. Boxcel

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    You described acromagely, which is a rare condition. Bodybuilders abuse inhumane doses of Hgh all the time along with IGF-1(the hormone that HGH converts to that's responsible for growth) and insulin, but we don't see grotesque bone structure change. Some thickening over time sure, but not acromagely features.

    Thing is you don't need much to enhance your recovery. Take a dose that's equivalent to what a young person produces and you already get a significant recovery effect and other benefits, with little to no sides.
     
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  14. Brighton bomber

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    Bowe was only around 200lbs at the Olympics 201lbs to be exact, Lewis was bigger he was 220lbs.
     
  15. f1ght3rz

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    No. It's quite the opposite. This coming from a juicehead like Miller is interesting.
    Miller knows he's called a cheater for using some stuff and he has no reason to bring the topic on the radar of the public with his history. He nas no proof for those accusations, logically, and makes himself vulnerbale as mentioned he has a history.
    So with his history (took some stuff) and his environment (a lot of bodybuilders, powerlifter as friends) he knows better about the topic than anyone else so i would call him an expert for sure.