Of course he has a reason to bring the topic up, it's too get under Joshua's skin and hoping Joshua is reckless in the fight much like he was when he fought Whyte. It's hypocritical of him to make the accusations, he might be right, in fact he probably is right, but that doesn't make his claims anymore credible just because he cheated in the past. Do known liars in court become more credible because they claim they can recognise other liars? Of course not their opinion is tainted by their own dishonesty, and Miller is in the same boat a known cheat, and suspected of continuing to cheat, what he says on the matter is coming from a perspective of you have to cheat to succeed, he likely thinks everyone is doping to justify his own doping. That's the mindset of a drug cheat. Miller also needs to be careful with the doping claims, remember how Pac sued Mayweather and they came to a settlement. Would be silly of Miller to make millions from this one fight and only to lose it all in the courts several months later.
don't guys quite often only fail drug tests years after they retire? when they go back and test for drugs that couldn't be detected at the time?
Since they started keeping samples and retesting them, yes a lot of people have been caught years after. The 2012 Olympic games was heralded as the cleanest games and now it has the highest number of caught dopers of any games as so many have been caught years later as testing methods have become better. I also think in the 1988 100m mens final when Ben Johnson was so notoriously caught cheating, every single member of that final was caught doping later on. Literally not a clean athlete among them. Boxing is different though due to the splintered approach on doping. We'll never know if Lewis ever doped as he was probably never really tested much in his era and I doubt any boxer in the US will have samples kept to be tested later. If Joshua is doping he'll probably get caught later by UKAD as they do retest old samples.
Sadly we don't get retesting in boxing, otherwise a lot of guys would have been caught after the fact. "Only" 6 of the 8 in the dirtiest race in history were caught before and/or after. Lewis was caught leading up to the Olympics, just like a couple of his teammates but brushed aside as a tainted supplement thing. As we all know now, he was doped up for his entire career. One of them (I think he was Canadian and finished 5th or 6th) was fiercely against doping and ended his career shortly after, claiming he didn't want to dope to be able to beat them.
i personally doubt there is a clean high level athlete on Earth. pro or am. Lewis had hgh gut if there ever has been one.
Really good thread. He's obviously juicing. https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/joshua-wilder-not-gonna-happen-cos-of-steroids.609308/ A lot of people are missing the point though: this is the first time someone has spoken publicly about Joshua's apparent use of TUEs. Very similar to what the British cycling team did with Wiggins, and different to the flagrantly illegal use of steroids or similar. It seems this is now the preferred route to cheat as it sits in a ''grey area'. I mean, he didn't reply "I've never used a TUE". Which would have made Miller look bitter and incorrect. Instead he groaned. A bit like when he said "shhhh" to Whyte when he alleged the same in their build up. I'd love TBV or Kugs to ask him directly over the next few weeks.
I do think there are clean ones but very few at the elite level. You just get some guys that are anomalies and who are just naturally gifted, but the majority need to dope to compete with them. Look at Foreman, won Olympic gold in less than 2 years from first stepping in the ring. I doubt he doped back then. That 7 year old that recently ran a 13.45 second 100m, Tyson at 13 was 190lbs, unless he was doping at 13 he was a natural freak. Ali even an amateur was clearly stupidly fast and light on his feet for his size, he was just born with natural talents that were unique.
Jim Brown was far more above his contemporaries than Ali, Foreman, Tyson, or any other athlete you want to name. he was hands down considered the greatest to play two different sports. by many he still is considered the greatest at both to this day.
And where did Miller get access to UKAD records of Joshua's supposed TUE's? Is he hacking UKAD like the Russians. His claims are baseless. Doesn't mean Joshua isn't doping but also doesn't mean he is based off some wild speculation.
Who knows, but he obviously feels confident about something, enough to say it publicly. AJ and Hearn didn't snap back; they didn't deny. They denied use of steroids, not TUEs.
Clenelo had more money behind and looked what happened to him. Yeah your argument is flawed, like the accusations.
He is just a phenomenal physical talent like George Foreman, for example. Steroids are not going to make you a better boxer. Stuff like EPO will be useful and i'm sure top dogs like Canelo use it.
in uk you have drug testing passporting so if you have been career long tested like joshua who was in the uk olympic boxing team and so subject to year round in and out of comp testing they will have all his drug tests from 7/8 years ago to compare to todays since he is tested non stop any discrepencies will show up to the testers and they can analyse and detect any changes in the body so many russian athletes have been suspended this way after the fact . the usa has this system but as far as i understand it is not until you get to a high level and then only during title fights ? or has this changed and are all american based boxers now subject to in and out of comp tests and at all levels.?
Joshua has allegedly addressed this https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/8475901/anthony-joshua-jarrell-miller-tue-testosterone/
