CEJ v The Plank.....bring it on

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  1. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    I agree, totally. Many top fighters cherry pick to an extent so i’m not gonna call Junior for doing the same. There’s no sense fighting Smith or Saunders. Another winnable recognisable British name would go down well for his career...a Ryder, Fielding or dragging Murray out of retirement.
     
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  2. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Totally agree. It would more than detail him tbh. Eubank is game and brave and would take such a beating over many rounds that as you say mate he would gain alot of mileage. I actually think so much so it would effect him for the rest of his career. Similar to Martin Murray v Golovkin were Martin's bravery never helped the rest of his career. He done the right thing not quitting but its situations like this were brave cornermen are a danger to their own fighters.
     
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  3. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Him v Ryder would be a very good fight. Size wise and stylewise I think they would gel very well.
     
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  4. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol. Ireland needs to import some of these planks in m8 as all they have currently is twigs in comparison lol.
     
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  5. Twentyman

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    Whilst there are loads of good international fights to look forward to over the next couple of months or fights involving a British fighter ie Khan v Crawford, Loma vs Crolla etc I feel a bit gutted that there isn’t any really big domestic clashes to look forward to yet. The build up to Degale v Eubank was brilliant and gave us plenty to talk as was Warrington v Frampton and Whyte v Chisora back in December. However, i’m feeling a bit underwhelmed and bereft with the current schedule. The March 30th card is ok but I really want to see higher profile headline bills...Liam Smith vs Brook, Eubank v Saunders etc. Really hope Hearn, Warren and co pull their fingers out and give us another big domestic fight to look forward to.
     
  6. james5000

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    Saunders is not a dangerous fight, Saunders can't punch. If anyone is in danger in that fight its Saunders and yes Saunders did take all the biggest blows in the 1st fight.

    You appear to already be calling Jr a cherry picker, he might be opportunistic but not a cherry picker.

    Jr will take the best fight available, no point in making all the concessions in the world to get fights though.
    Jr is practically the biggest name @ 168 (if you consider Canelo a 160lber) why should he have to make too many.

    Plenty of blokes want a crack at him, don't think he will find it hard to make a high profile fight?
     
  7. james5000

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    I'd be surprised if he went down the route you are suggesting, when PBC has a boat load of names to fight in the division.
     
  8. Twentyman

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    Of course he cherry picks, all fighters do & I said that. When a fight is lined up for him they will look at what is stylistically suited to him and what threat the other fighter carries.

    What are you on about? BJS is a dangerous fight because he’ll get out boxed & lose. Course he can punch and he’s strong enough to work on the inside too. Credit to Junior, he’s a dangerous fighter but he’s no Mayweather, he is pretty basic.
     
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  9. james5000

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    BJS was getting toweled up in the 1st fight and you don't need to be Floyd to beat him LOL. Billy Joe definitely does not hit harder than Young Christopher that's for sure.

    We must have a completely different definition of Cherry picking. Cherry picking is taking **** easy fights you can't lose.
    Jr hasn't been doing that.
     
  10. Twentyman

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    Yeah, I think our definition is slightly different. I believe Junior and his team watched Degale get beaten up by Truax and thought that he was ripe for picking. He still had to win it though and he did impressively. Abraham was finished. He thought Groves was finished. They picked Quinlan for an easy belt to blag that they had a world title.

    I’m not knocking Junior for any of this. That’s the way to guide a fighter, his dad was the same. He’s won me over, like Dillian Whyte I had little positive to say about him either but he won me over. BJS is all wrong for him because he’s a world class boxer with superb footwork and whilst you believe he doesn’t hit hard, he hits hard enough to keep an opponent honest.
     
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  11. BodyBlaster

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    Smith is so under appreciated it’s ridiculous.
    He’s a tremendous fighter and athlete.
    Eubank would get an absolute pasting if they fought.
     
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  12. Hattonmad

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    Anyone who thinks Eubank Jr beats Saunders is off their rocker. Saunders completely gassed in their first fight and still won clearly. Before that he played with Eubank. Both have improved significantly since then but the key factor is Saunders' stamina is much improved under Ingle so he'd put on a clinic over 12 rounds. Saunders is literally kryptonite for Eubank. It would be worse than the Groves fight. A very, very, easy fight to predict.
     
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  13. james5000

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    I think the only reason Jr moved up to 168 was the WBSS.

    The Quinlan fight was to get used to the weight.

    Abraham fight was an eliminator to get into the tournament.

    Obviously Groves fight was in the tournament. Jr could have easily found himself on the Smith side of the draw. Jr didn't get to choose Groves. He would have though because Groves was the only one with a belt.

    Jr was obligated to be a reserve at the WBSS final and then fought Degale in a big grudge many expected him to lose or even get schooled.

    Murray, Ryder and Fielding are all

    A- Not big money fights
    B- Jr would be a huge favourite in and would get no credit for the win.

    I suppose you could call them cherry picks but tbh they are only fights that would be happening if absolutely nothing else was available.
     
  14. lencoreastside

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    Well ok but you fail to take some factors into account. Has CEJ improved? He seems to have at least a bit anyway. Also what shape would billy turn up in? He's only been really fit for lemieux. CEJ is always fully fit. It's hard to have full confidence in bjs given his lack of discipline.
     
  15. Hattonmad

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    I stated both have improved and one would assume Billy would turn up in his best shape for Jr, under Ingle.

    My question is this; is Chris Eubank Jr better than Lemieux? Probably not, certainly doesn't bang as hard. Look what a fully fit Saunders done to Lemieux. Granted styles make fights but levels are levels. We know Billy is at the very top level when he's on his game. Likewise we know Eubank Jr is not.
     
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