Ike Ibeabuchi vs Joe Frazier

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  1. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ibeabuchi was bigger, stronger, faster, more skilled, more durable, and had much better stamina than the 70s version of Foreman. Don't know how that translates, but if Ibeabuchi - Frazier could really happen I'd sure like to bet some money on Ibeabuchi. Yep, I'll take the guy who is bigger, stronger, faster, and has amazing stamina, the people who think Frazier would win could have the guy who is called an "ATG" (whatever that means) by some.
     
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  2. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cleveland Williams could probably do that.
     
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    I'd bet a lot of money against it. Who's the most capable opponent Williams stopped within 5? Who's the most formidable puncher he lasted 12 against?
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Cleveland Williams would walk through Byrd but I don't know about Tua
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    That's like picking Edwin Valero over Pacquiao. Why would do that
     
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  6. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wonder how many 6-2, 210 pound southpaws that Cleveland Williams fought in his career? Byrd would probably have about as much of a problem with Williams as he had with Jimmy Thunder.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Really? One bang from Williams and Byrd sleeps. Your right he never fought any like Byrd he faced much better people than Byrd. And his Power he was much more mobile than Tua he'd KO Byrd before Ike. He wouldn't beat Ike though
     
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  8. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Southpaws didn't exist until 1990.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Is that a joke? Or not
     
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    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interesting question.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Ok yes then. You funny *******
     
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    What? Did he make the jojo against a modern-like heavy hitter on that level or not? Did he get dropped on a much lower level as well, yes or no??? Something twisted in the upper storey?

    And again, someone has to ask, if you honestly believe your own drivel.
     
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    Frazier by decision.based on the Tua fight
     
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    Modern younger fans want their generation of fighters to win just like we do. That being said, only George Foreman beat Frazier. No one else. And George does thesame to Ike and Tina Ike and TUA and 90% of past and future heavyweights. Fraziers unrelenting power laden in yr face pressure crushes I think 96 % of former Heavyweight CHAMPION S
     
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    AND ANYBODY THAT HOLDS BYRD UP AS A GREAT AND WOULD BE SURPRISED TO SEE FRAZIER CRUSH HIM IN 5 IS AN IDIOT AND REALLY SHOULD NEVER POST AGAIN. Take up table tennis watching. Barbie dollrunway commentating. If FRAZIER DIDN'T TAKE OUT BYRD BEFORE THE END OF RD 2 I WOULD BE DISAPPOINTED
     
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