Max Baer vs David Tua

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Who wins and how

  1. Baer KO

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  2. Baer TKO

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  3. Baer UD

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  4. Baer SD

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  5. Tua KO

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  6. Tua TKO

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  7. Tua UD

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  8. Tua SD

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  9. Draw

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Stumbled upon an old post of mine and I got dumbfounded by the idea that Tua had technical deficiencies that were just as glaring as Baer's all over again. Some of the same zealots who wax eloquently about Baer, Willard, Marciano, Carnera, and even Galento's underappreciated technical skills routinely dismiss guys like Tua and Ibeabuchi as unskilled, unimpressive nobodies (and some even question their power and punching abilities!).

     
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    What's with calling people zealots??? Is it because they're full of zeal?
     
  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    I've tried hard to get into the mindset of old school fans who hold these beliefs, thinking that perhaps they're seeing something I'm not seeing. Well, I've come to the conclusion that they are indeed seeing something I'm not seeing, and it exists in their heads.
     
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  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Baer was much better in his era than Tua was in his. We can agree on that.
     
  5. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    Yes, but the era was significantly weaker as well.
     
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  6. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Maybe true but you can only beat what's put in front of you. Tua would likely have the edge but he (and his era) had the benefit of modern training and diet etc and "supplementation" which he wouldn't have had in the 30s. Put 20lb of lean on Baer and put him through the Kronk gym and he'd give Tua hell.
     
  7. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    Give Baer super-powered rocket pants and he'd solve world peace.

    That line of debate is a bit of a non-starter, really.
     
  8. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    It's a fact. I think the same about other old timers who you no doubt think Tua beats. peak Tua weighed 240lb, high protein fish diet no doubt.
     
  9. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    What's a fact? That Tua was on PEDs during his career, or that modern day Max would be 20lbs heavier and a H2H beast?

    The first point is possible, the second wildly speculative. Neither are facts.
     
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  10. janitor

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    You have established this how?

    Any assumption in this game, must be justified by evidence, or it can be dismissed without evidence!

    Hell, even if you are right, it still wouldn't necessarily close the quality gap!
     
  11. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    By using my eyes and my brain.
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Levinsky>>>>Lennox Lewis
     
  13. BrutalForeman

    BrutalForeman Active Member Full Member

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    I'm referring to the version of Max who killed with his punching power. Can that version of Baer KO Tua?
     
  14. janitor

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    No but he would probably force him into his shell, and win via the silent contract.
     
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  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Tua bombs him out. Baer would need a jab.