Wilder's manager: “We asked how much is Joshua getting, and we were never told the answer,”

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  1. cfckieran

    cfckieran Member Full Member

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    I'd back you on this one. AJ PPV will smash Wilders free ITV viewing figures. I actually think 500k for Wilder is way over and its more likely around 150- 200k. All the pubs etc will show AJ on PPV , you can bet they wont be for Wilder Breazeale.
     
  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I get the very REAL impression Anthony Joshua's career has already peaked.

    The Klitschko fight was great. The Parker fight was a big unification, even though it bored people to pieces. The Povetkin fight didn't seem as big as either. The Miller fight doesn't seem as big as any of those.

    Wilder's career is definitely trending up.

    Joshua's has definitely leveled off and seems headed downward. He can't even fall back on the big stadium show this time.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are all the pubs open at 4 a.m.?

    Even if people don't stay up til 4 a.m. to watch Wilder, they'll record it. Who's going to order a PPV and go to bed? They'll catch the Joshua fight on Youtube later, if something of note happens. If not, they won't see it at all.
     
  4. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Wilder will never get a 50:50 split against AJ and their is a good chance he will lose against Breazeale as he is not in charge of his emotions like in the Fury fight.
     
  5. cfckieran

    cfckieran Member Full Member

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    Depends on the event I suppose. There were 5 within a mile of me open or the Fury fight. We''ll see what happens I guess.
     
  6. deadACE

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    If the first fight is in the UK then give him 50%. I've said it from the start. This is Wilder selling his belt in essence. Give him what he wants and once the belt has been wrestled away then a rematch even in America should be a formality once Joshua has got his number.
     
  7. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Well about 90,000 people packed Wembley to watch him fight Povetkin and 80,000 for both Takam fights at the stadium in Wales. He would have packed out Wembley in April for Wilder, Whyte or Fury but all 3 did not want the work though it offers career high pay days for any of them. So AJ goes to the historic MSG in New York to fill a capacity crowd of 25,000 which I understand is a sellout to defend his title in the US. It’s clear that his career is on an upward trajectory and alongside Canelo is the man. He will come back to the UK for big stadium fights when the others develop the guts to face him. It strikes me as if the aforementioned 3 like to slag him off but not face him. Wilder is now facing someone AJ beat in Breazeale who was unbeaten when AJ faced him and cannot even get it on PPV.
     
  8. Hurrikeen

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    AJ is picking up his biggest payday to date fighting Miller, with fights against Usyk, Fury & Wilder still possible in the future. The first two of those which would likely be at Wembley.

    Wilder is fighting AJ’s leftovers from 3 years ago.

    I’ll hold fire on this claim of yours for the time being.
     
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  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The leftovers argument is over. Fury and Ortiz were better than anyone Joshua has faced. Now Joshua has walked away from his fans, airing 4 a.m. PPVs so he can fight on an APP with 80,000 subscribers in the U.S.

    Anthony Joshua was a very big deal when he fought Klitschko and Parker.

    That ship really seems like it's sailed. Doesn't it? He certainly isn't a BIGGER name now than he was then.

    If he has to spend the next year or so fighting mandatories, that isn't going to help, either.

    When all is said and done, the Pinnacle of Anthony Joshua's career may have been the Parker fight ... ouch.

    Meanwhile, other stars continue to rise.
     
  10. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    If Wilder’s stock has rocketed why is his fight against Breazeale not on PPV? Erroll Spence by comparison is now a PPV Star. The truth is Tyson Fury is better known than Wilder in the US which is why he got ESPN deal. The reason Wilder did not take the DAZN deal was because he would have to fight AJ.
     
  11. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Fury beat Wilder and outclassed him and Wilder struggled with Ortiz an old man. AJ knocked out Povetkin
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson Fury isn't more well known in the U.S. than Wilder. You can ask ESPN. They put out a list of the Most Famous Athletes, and Wilder is above Fury.

    So even Fury's new network doesn't believe he's a bigger star than Wilder. But, nice try at trolling. (LOL)
     
  13. h8me

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    Seriously? You have literally no proof for such statements. AJ is currently second biggest star in boxing(after Canelo of course) and with his first fight in the USA his recognition around the world will just grow bigger. To be fair after his last two fights Wilder is also becoming more popular, especially the bout against Fury did a lot for both of them.
    If Wilder would defeat Joshua in their potential fight, then he has a chance to overcome him in terms of popularity and recognition, but now it is not even close.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

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    Povetkin couldn't beat Fury or Ortiz, he isn't rated higher than them, and people don't even think he can beat Usyk. He's fighting on Usyk's undercard next time out against TBA. This isn't 2009. Povetkin is done.
     
  15. CutThroatFade

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    There's a reason why Hearn has stacked the AJ-Miller undercard with Irish and UK fighters. So that their fans also travel to New York and multiply the support for Joshua. Joshua has a completely different fanbase to Ricky Hatton. Joshua's fans are largely casuals, a large portion of whom are females who just attend these fights so that they can post their pictures and videos on Instagram. They categorically will not fly out to New York to watch him box some fat American they haven't heard of and sacrifice their end-of-term summer holiday to Ibiza or Magaluf in order to do so.

    Also, what's wrong with Wilder-Breazeale being non-PPV? Hearn had the audacity to make that Joshua-Breazeale a PPV fight when the biggest name on his record was Amir Mansour.