What is up with Dirrell?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by HerolGee, Mar 24, 2019.



  1. LeeD1982

    LeeD1982 Active Member Full Member

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    Khan isn't a bad fighter and is definitely brave; but everyone knows that:

    1. Genuine elites; &
    2. Genuine punchers

    … will always find a way to get him.

    But the flip side of this is that many fighters ostensibly better than Khan, can actually be beaten by Khan H2H if they're not the type to get him out of there, either by total domination or a single huge shot.

    A few years ago I think Khan may have beaten Brook, but not now.
     
  2. armour

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    what do you class as the 'real deal'?

    in a sport of 17 weight classes 4/5 world titles per weight and 70 world champions at any time, yes

    and he's the only south asian male ever to win a world title and you a fellow south asian just happen to overrate him massively whilst hating on top white fighters that have had careers Khan could only dream of having.
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    someone who can win a world title is definitely a real boxer in my view, but perhaps you have some other definition of what a boxer is.

    a real title, not reg or wbu or that rubbish.

    I call him a bona fide titlist. How is that overating? tell me what word in there is overrating him.
     
  4. Consu

    Consu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well said.
     
  5. armour

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    Kotelnik was Euro level the same as Williams, Sprott, he's one of the weakest world champions Ive ever seen.

    is Breidis Prescott a better fighter than Audley Harrison?


    Light Welterweight was a pass the parcel bum division where Souleymaybe Mbaye, Andreas Kotelnik, Gavin Rees, Junior Witter etc were passing the parcel when none of them were world class.
     
  6. armour

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    The truth.....



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  7. armour

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    Yet any GGG, Kitschko or Calzaghe opponent that ever won a world title fight you don't respect.

    you claimed he was ' the real deal'

    to me the real deal is Vasyl Lomachenko, the real deal is Oleksandr Usyk, it's Mayweather, Pacqauio in their prime.....

    It's laughable what you wrote..., it's Amir Khan! One of the most laughed at ridiculed boxers in recent years, a guy who hasn't won a world title fight since 2011/2012.
     
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  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    i am on record as calling kessler elite and old hopkins, reid and lacy as world class. That was in 2014. How in 2019 are you not aware of this?

    i am on record as calling canelo elite, and jacobs and lemmy was world.That was in 2015-2018. How on earth have u missed all this in 2019?

    i am on record as calling lewis atg, byrd world class, haye world class, pov world class, Shaggy world class.

    this is 100% proof that you talk rubbish.



    so.... all the othe rpeople who win world titles arent real deal. thats bullshyt and you know it.
    How can u even write this?



    i've already written that he lost his way in his 30s, which is what you are referring to. SO you AGREE with what I already wrote...yet pretend i disagree with you. You contradict your own points.
     
  10. Consu

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    I mean none of those guys that beat Harrison didn't even come close to win titles! They were hardly top15 contenders at their best.
    Collazo, Kotelnik, Malignaggi, Maidana each of them are former titlists.

    You are too funny, I can't handle you.
     
  11. armour

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    Weak divisions are weak divisions.. It's funny how since Khan stepped up to Welterweight he hasn't won a world title! I wonder why.

    There's a big difference when you've in a division when you've got one of the most dominant champions I've seen Wladimir Klitschko holding all the belts, going undefeated for over a decade.

    Light Welterweight ' world champions' around that time
    Gavin Rees, Junior Witter, Amir Khan, Souleymayne Mbaye, Lamont Peterson, Devon Alexander, Andreas Kotelnik, Lovemore Ndou, Juan Urango, Kendall Holt, Paulie Malignaggi, Vivian Harris, past it out of retirement fat Erik Morales, past it Zab Judah,
     
  12. HerolGee

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    i would agree that Dirrell has levelled out as a so called "transient titlist", one who wins a title to lose it immediately. They are not yet the full complement of being successful titlists...a successful titlst should be expected to make at least ONE defence.
     
  13. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dirrell’s problem is the same as my old roommate Ronald Gavril‘s problem, which is they found an easier way to make a living other than boxing and in my opinion only continue boxing as a form of side income because they can. Both are extremely talented and easily world class when 100% focused on boxing.

    When Dirrell passed through our gym several years back he was a great guy, but spent more time checking on his rental property and trying to buy more property than he did training, which of course isn’t bad for him or his family, but not great for a guy trying to reach his full potential as a fighter.
     
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  14. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Yeah Khan beat Maidana & yet Maidana beat up Floyd but didnt get the nod. Maybe thats why Floyd ducked Khan
     
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  15. UniversalPart

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    Floyd by then had brittle hands and lacked KO power. Khan would have looked better than he actually was against Floyd.