All Aboard! Ukrainian Upstart Usyk's Unlimited-Class Undisputed Unification Unicycle Up & Underway!

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How many HW belts will make Oleksandr Usyk's personal collection?

Poll closed May 25, 2019.
  1. 1

    14.3%
  2. 2

    12.2%
  3. 3

    4.1%
  4. 4

    2.0%
  5. 5 (come out and play, IBO, you can sit at the big kids' table now, we count you..)

    36.7%
  6. 0 :-(

    30.6%
  1. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    I think Usyk is more talented than the current plodding heavyweights today, but even if he outboxes everyone he might lose controversial/corrupt decisions against Hometown fighters from the UK and Murica.
     
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  2. CarlChilders

    CarlChilders Member banned Full Member

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    Right Anthony Joshua is 6'5 like I said. Just like Tyson Fury is 6'7 not 6' 9 like I said.I know you people love to build up your heroes. [url]https://www.celebheights.com/s/Anthony-Joshua-49134.html[/url]

    Also as is Michael Grant was a 6'8 250 plus pound guy who was pure muscle. Nobody thought he was a giant or unbeatable. You casual younger generation of fan came along and think being 6'5 240 makes you a giant. Wladimir Klitschko was 6'5 240 and in great steroid shape and got knocked out by smaller guys. If anything coming into the in bulky steroid shape is a detriment. This is one of the reason Joshua has poor stamina and is slow. The other reason AJ is slow because he just is and has no skills. The reason he wasn't expose and knocked out yet is because how poor the current heavyweight class is.
     
  3. CarlChilders

    CarlChilders Member banned Full Member

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    Right and did you see how David Price was so much bigger than Alexander Povetkin? Did being taller help David Price win? George Foreman was named Big George Foreman and was 5 inches shorter than Michael Grant casual. It was a nick name. When I say people didn't think he was big. I mean people who know boxing didn't act like being 6'8 made him a giant who couldn't lose because of his height. Nobody back in the 90s said the 6'4 3/4 Lennox was so big that nobody shorter could beat him. You now Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman two guys around 6'2 knocked his face off right? When Lennox Lewis fought Michael Grant nobody back then said since Grant is 4 inches taller than Lewis so Lewis didn't have a chance to beat him That is what casuals like you do. Also What happened to AJ when he fought Parker? He won a boring fight again him. Most people think Parker lost to the 6'2 Andy Ruiz anyway. Dillian

    You also know Wladimir Klistchko is close to Joshua height and got knocked out by 3 guys who were shorter than him right? Corire Sander was 6'3. Lamon Brewster was a 6'1 and Ross Purritty was 6'2. Nobody back when Wlad turned pro act like he was a giant because he was 6'5 and nobody asked like he couldn't lose to people shorter. Mike "The Giant" White was talked about because he was 6'10 300 pounds. But nobody acted like he couldn't lose because of how massive he was. Lance Whitaker was 6'8 and nobody acted like he couldn't lose because of his size you casual.

    Also who said Joshua's height wouldn't be obvious against somebody 2.5 inches shorter than he is? I clearly typed being a few inches taller than somebody doesn't make you a giant compare to them. One last thing casual boxing fan. Most boxers lie about their height. Like Tyson Fury claiming to be 6'9 when he is 6'7. So Joseph Parker clearly is lying about his height. Joseph Parker isn't 6'4 he is 6'3 or maybe a little shorter. You can type lol, lmfao but it still won't make you know anymore about boxing than you do. You still are a casual boxing fan.
     
  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Are you another one of those cry babies raving on about the old generation and how the current one sucks???

    You are boring. Go and watch old videos of your favourite classics and exit this thread because your opinion is irrelevant.

    And using celebheight for proof? Get the hell out of here... those obsessive losers will downgrade anything and everything Ive followed that site for ages... laughing my ass of everytime.

    Joshua is 199CM as stated on official documents and by his own admission and even Povetkin remarked on how Joshuas height suprised him and he is no stranger to tall people.

    The burden of proof is on you as the disputer... go get your mesuring tape and follow AJ or be gone with your baseless assertions.

    He suffers from anterior pelvic tilt and can appear shorter than what he is .....but he is not 6'5 end of story.
     
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  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Speaking of casual, the more you type the more you prove how casual you are on a variety of topics.

    Height isn't the only determining factor regarding size. Three people can be of the exact same height with three different builds entirely.

    Actually, three different people of the same exact height can all train and go gym for a decade and still be different builds and size even with the same effort

    Bone structure determines a number of physical attributes and influences the ability to pack on muscle. Small boned, medium boned' big boned etc.

    Wide shoulders, stocky frames, mesomorph, endomorph, ectomorph. Muscle fibre type, predisposed fat levels determined by genetics..

    Mike Tyson 5'10 big boned, 86 kg as a 14 year old kid mostly muscle, some men can train for a decade and not reach that muscle mass at the same height... and Mike at that aged didnt even work out.

    You are so clueless I am sick to my stomach
     
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  6. CarlChilders

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    Lol older generation? No the heavyweight division sucks because it does. You know Wlad was from the 90s and still almost knocked out a prime Anthony Joshua right? Wlad was nothing compared to the 90's heavyweights a old version could almost beat the best we have today? The heavyweight division has been bad seen the early 2000's. You are one of these younger generation of casual fan who gets excited over everything. Usyk has never fought a heavyweight in his career but to casuals like you he is the best heavyweight in the world. Then when you get told how wrong you are you cry like a baby. Just like the typical millennial. Every time something doesn't go you way you cry and play the pity and blame card right?

    Wlad was measured 6'4 1/2 as 20 plus year old amateur [url]https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/kl/wladimir-klitschko-1.html[/url] Joshua is only slightly taller than Wlad. [url]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZVO1Xi0FEOU/hqdefault.jpg[/url]

    Are you going to cry now? Your boyfriend Anthony Joshua isn't as big as you want him to be? Who cares what Anthony Joshua says about his height? Tyson Fury claims to be 6'9 even though he was measured at 6'7. George Foreman called to be 6'4 when he was always listed at 6'3 when he was younger. I feel sorry for guys like you. You are in the closet about your sexuality. Come out. There is nothing wrong with being gay. If you have a thing for Joshua then good.

    This won't change the fact that Anthony Joshua almost got knocked out by timid glass chin fraud in Wladimir Klitschko. It won't change the fact that Wlad turned pro back in 1996 I believe. It won't change the fact that most if not heavyweights today are on steroids or are just fat. It won't change the fact that there were tons of 6'5 heavyweights from the 70's till this day but nobody back then thought being 6'5 meant a 6'2 inch guy couldn't beat you. This started happening when casual fans like you started to watch boxing. You watch boxing so you can see a man without his shirt on and get excited. Maybe you should go back to doing that. Or better yet since you are online how about you just voyeur over to man on man porn stuff. Leave boxing to people who know what they talking about.
     
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  7. CarlChilders

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    Lol right clueless fan. Because clearly that is what I typed right? I said all guys who are the same height have the same build? What a sad little clueless guy you are. In any case 6'1 Holyfield constantly fought guys bigger than him and won. The 5'10 220 pound Tyson constantly fought guys 6'5 and won. That was my point you sad little virgin casual fan. Joshua being 6'5 doesn't make him a giant compared to a 6'3 inch guy and being 6'5 doesn't make you unbeatable. Now go back to getting excited over that Anthony Joshua picture you have on your wall. You bore me now. You get dismissed.
     
  8. Kingmaffe

    Kingmaffe Active Member Full Member

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    Man this is funny, you are so triggered!
     
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  9. CarlChilders

    CarlChilders Member banned Full Member

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    Triggered? Yeah you are a millennial. Lol a little kid trying to be cool by repeating slang he her on TV. How sad. Your daddy doesn't love you?
     
  10. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Ignoring your waffle, you must have been living under a rock when ive clearly been slating Usyks chances at heavyweight and I got Dillian whyte as my avatar, hardly an AJ fanboy.

    Just to prove to everyone here that you are clueless and chatting ****.

    Did you even read my previous posts in this VERY thread on Usyk?

    You know what... put your money where your mouth is... find a way to get Joshua physically measured in person if he is closer to 6'5 than 6 '7 ill bet you 100 dollars.

    Furthermore, this thread has NOTHING to do with 2000 era and I am not involved with that discussion you are starting a conversation with yourself.
     
  11. catchwtboxing

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    Requesting permission to come on board this train to greatness!
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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  14. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk was great until he bowed to Bellew, then it took the shine off a little. It depends if Fury gets belts before him. I think Usyk can probably get every belt other than any Fury might have. It's hard to imagine him beating Fury since Tyson is one of the few HW's that can keep up with Usyk's speed and skill and stamina yet add more size, length and power. It's surely a terrible match up for Usyk.
     
  15. Kingmaffe

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    My vote is based on the current champions of the HW landscape. If Joshua got popped for PED’s tomorrow and all his titles were stripped, then I would pick Usyk to unify.