Sooo, Ali in his Prime beats ALL Other Heavies?

Hello Farooq, glad to see you made a new account! I missed you

 

I don't reckon you have to go with women to be a good daddy to a boy. You been real square-dealin' with me. The Bible says two men ought not lay together. But I don't reckon the Good Lord would send anybody like you to Hades. That Frank, he lives inside of his own heart. That's an awful big place to live in. You take good care of that boy.

 

Lol dude there is no such thing is super heavyweights are pros. Second Lennox Lewis was only maybe a inch taller than Foreman. So how is Lewis a super heavyweight and not Foreman? 3rd you know Lewis was knocked out by Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall 2 guys who are Ali sized right? You know Wladimir was knocked out by Lamon Brewster, Corrie Sanders, and Ross Purritty. Brewster and Ross were Ali sized and Sanders was Foreman's size.

 

Don't know who Farooq is. Seems like a Muslim name. Awwww did you think I was that person because I told you that your little 180 pound hero Rocky Marciano was a bum?

 

Ali's win column? Here is a list of the so called best fighters Ali beat. 180 pound Floyd Patterson. Old overrated Liston. George Foreman by luck. Ali lost to Frazier in his prime. Ken Norton beat Ali at least 2 if not all 3 times. Ali beat Ron Lyle. If you are going to say Ali was past his prime then So was Lyle who was Ali age if not older. What other heavyweights who were actually heavyweights that Ali beat? How many other world class hall of fame guys did he beat?

Ali is another one of these fighters who got hyped up by the media and casual fans fell for it.

 

Patterson was a heavyweight champ. Liston was 34 and went on to win many fights. Ali avenged that loss 2 times, and Ali was past prime, he was slower and less active after the 3 year layoff, not to mention Frazier himself is a monster. I wouldn't consider taking Foreman's best shots, yelling at him to hit harder, then popping quick combos in his face "lucky".

Let's talk about the Norton fights. So we gonna talk about the first, where Norton got lucky and broke an out of shape Ali's jaw? Or the second fight, where Ali beat Norton like a dog? How about the 3rd fight, where Ali was EXTREMELY old and past prime?

Methinks you left out guys like Shavers, Chuvalo and Quarry for a reason. Go to general and talk about how AJ is ducking Wilder, or how Lomachenko would make Armstrong look like a novice. Just get out of Classic

 

Usyk would beat him

 

Lol Floyd Patterson isn't a heavyweight by modern standards who cares if he was champion during this era. Sonny Liston was still past his prime. If you are going to say Ali was past his prime at 28 but Liston wasn't past his prime at 34 just proves how much of a casual fan you. No heavyweight boxer in the history of the sport was past his prime at 28. Especially one who was undefeated and rarely hit. But if Ali was prime at 28 then so was Frazier, Norton, Lyle and others.

Ali himself said his goal wasn't to lay on the ropes against Foreman. He said Foreman pushed him there and he couldn't get off. According to Ali his only goal was to not get knocked out. Foreman fought stupid and lost. Ali refused to give him a rematch. Fighters get lucky. Unless you are saying Buster Douglas is better than Tyson. Lewis got knocked out by Rahman and McCall ( The only difference is they gave him a rematch). Foreman destroyed Frazier and Norton two fighters Ali couldn't beat. Foreman thought he was unbeatable and lost. Fighters lose. If you were a true fan you would know this.

Ali beat Norton like a dog in their second fight? I guess that is why Ali won a split decision right? Again Ali himself said he knew he lost all 3 fights. Ken Norton and Ali are the same age. So if Ali was past his prime in their 3rd fight then so was Norton. Unless you are saying Norton is immortal an ddidn't age.

Lol you are a Marciano fan. That already proves to me how slow witted you are. You live in your little fantasy world where 180 pound club fighters like Marciano could beat Foreman right? You live in your little fantasy world where 170 pound fighters like Gene Tunney could beat Lennox Lewis. You live in your little fantasy world where 190 pound tomtao can Jack Dempsey could beat Mike Tyson. You don't even deserve to go to the General Forum here. You just need to stop watching boxing.

 

Maybe if you paid more attention to what happens in the ring than the stat sheet you'd understand. Ali relied on distance control and his long jab. Lennox had a 6 inch longer reach than Foreman and had a more jab-oriented game. We never saw Ali face a 6'5+ ATG, we don't know how he'd adjust. He was almost always the taller fighter and he molded his style around that.

 

He got banned as farooq, he will now likely be shortly banned as (K)Carl “slingblade” Childers...and then he will probably come back as another troll months down the road, again calling people casuals as he goes on about the density of Foreman’s bone structure rather than the density betwixt his own ears.

 

Exactly!
You see through BS.
Ali also ducked Leon Spinks who gave him a rematch. Ali pretended to retire but I always suspected he was just Yella.

 

Lennox Lewis isn't 6'5 he is 6'4 1/2 according to him. Also what does Lewis reach have to do with his overall size? Foreman was still 6'3 230, Lewis was 6'4 1/2 230. Ken Norton was 6'3 220. Ron Lyle was 6'3 220. Chuck Wepner was 6'5 230. Buster Mathis was 6'3 220 to 300. Joe Bugner was 6'4 230. In any case the 6'1 205 pound past his prime Evander Holyfield gave Lennox Lewis a run for his money. The 6'2 to 6'3 Zeljko Mavrovic gave Lewis all he could handle. The 6'1 215 to 220 Ray Mercer should of got the nod against Lewis. Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall who were around 6'2 or less knocked him out stupid. Hell even the 6'0 Levi Billups put up a good fight against Lewis. But yeah since Ali was 6'2 1/2 he couldn't beat Lewis because he was taller? Also if you read my comment I typed Lewis would beat Ali. But not because he was taller by 2 inches but because of his style.

 

I thought it was rather accurate except the stops Marciano in ten in the rematch...Marciano tended to do much better the second time around. But I do think he put points him. I think Ali has the most problems with the great swarmers Marciano Frazier (sorry Frazier fans that wasn’t CLOSE to a prime Ali) Tyson. The rest he put points imo Louis would be a real interesting fight because of the speed and power but Ali probably keeps him off balance enough for a UD. Certainly possible Ali losses to a prime Marciano Tyson and Frazier but I would give him the edge in all of those. No ones perfect and he would prob drop a few of these but win the most of any.

 

Lol look we have another casual fan here. Rocky Marciano never beat or fought any modern sized heavyweight. Why would you assume he could beat one? Marciano a great swarmer? Marciano wasn't great at anything. He was just slow no talent joke who only won a belt because the mob controlled boxing.

Also Ali wasn't close to being in his prime against Frazier? Great then Frazier wasn't in his prime against Ali since Frazier got hit more than Ali and was roughly the same age.

Please moderator of this forum. Stop allowing casual fans like this guy and others join this forum.