Was Leonard`s comeback in `87 the greatest in boxing history?

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  1. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Johnny Tapia's comeback was the most impressive. He was still a contender when he was suspended.
     
  2. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then we have to go look at the two fights side by side and see how Leonard starts off the fights.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Not getting caught so much and landing more, winning by KO doesn`t mean you fought that well he came from behind, there`s no way you could compare Foreman at 45 to Ray in his early 30`s and Hagler was far better than Foreman in `87 P4P.
     
  4. steve21

    steve21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I stand corrected.
     
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  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    George Foreman has the greatest comeback in sports history. nothing else is close
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Mayweather's comeback after Hatton was way better if you're looking at the big picture and not singular wins.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    Ali, SRR, Jofre were all very impressive comebacks as well that seem to get forgotten in some ways. Robinson came back well just short of 34 with more than 135 fights behind him and marched his way into the Middleweight crown and remained a big player for another 5 years. Stupendous really.
     
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  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd agree. Tiger's comeback might still take that place, though.
     
  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Leonard's comeback would probably be second only to Foreman's imo. To be away that long and then go directly up and beat the nr 1 p4p fighter two weight classes above your best... There is an absurd need among some to downgrade this achievement, but it was truly magnificent.
     
  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Also Floyd was far better in that bout than Ray was v Hagler and Hatton was younger than Marvin was in those repective losses.
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I feel Tyson was better than Hagler by 1987 P4P.
     
  12. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought Hagler was ranked the nr 1 p4p, but it seems The Ring hadn't started with p4p rating by then. But at that point Hagler should have been viewed by the consensus as the nr 1 since Tyson so far only had Berbick and Smith as meaningful wins.

    Was he better in hindsight? To make that argument you probably have to ignore both the Tillis fight and the Douglas fight and say that they weren't really indicative of the fighter Tyson was in early 1987. I'm on the fence on this one. Tyson had the better peak abilities p4p at that point, but Marvin was more well rounded, more resilient and had loads of more experience.
     
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  14. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A bit off topic, but did anyone else think the Tillis-Tyson fight was a lot closer than the scorecards indicated? One thing I noticed about that fight is that one of the announcers was Pro-Tyson to a ridiculous point...there were many occasions where Tillis landed solidly and no comment from the announcers.

    In fact, it seems to me Tyson was getting hurt in nearly every round. Tillis was really active...in fewer words, I'm not sure Mike won that fight


    (ducks and gets ready for angry redactions).
     
  15. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Last time I viewed it I scored it for Tillis, and at the time this was not a controversial viewpoint: "Some said Tyson won the Fight, Some said Tillis won, it was quite controversial." http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/James_Tillis_vs._Mike_Tyson
     
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