Kell Brook was the best welterweight in the world until he he fought GGG.

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  1. Jayme Chavez

    Jayme Chavez Member Full Member

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    I seriously believe this, he was a big strong welterweight with great all around skills. I believe he would've beaten anybody including Errol Spence, but then he sold his elite status away and got his face broken by GGG.
    Agree or Disagree?
     
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    yep fair enough
     
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    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sold or just wanted to really challenge himself, but I think he would have had his hand raised in the fight vs Errol Spence Jr, yes.
     
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    Brook hard the heart to move up weight unlike the coward GGG who wont dare to challenge someone on a higher weight class. No wonder he ducked Ward.
     
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    Agreed. Should have unified rather than chasing GGG.
     
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  6. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Top 3 for sure
    And one thing is clear no one at 147 wanted none of him and I mean no one
     
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    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Yes people seem to forget this

    He should have tried to unify with Thurman rather than going for GGG. Ultimately it cost him.
     
  8. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Thurman would not speak his name neither would Garcia Spence at the begging was not ready
    Pac didn't want none Vargas priced himself out
    Floyd acted like he never existed until he seen him light up ggg and then claimed he'd laid the blue print
    What was he meant to do
    Cotto didn't want any to big of a risk little reward for more or less all of them
    Then Spence improved got to world level and took advantage of the weight drop and damage from the guy fight
     
  9. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both Amir Khan and Kell Brook made huge mistakes moving up two divisions to fight opponents. Both of those fights took a lot out of them. I know why Khan fought canelo though because it was a huge payday and if he had lost a fight at welterweight he would have never had the opportunity for the payday with Canelo. For Kell Brook it literally made no sense to fight Triple G. There was no reason for him to do that other than he was trying to copycat khan
     
  10. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Copy cat is different from out doing the guy who thought he was smart by risking his life to duck you , he would use that to duck the fight the public had demanded from him
     
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    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was the 3rd best, Crawford and Spence would have always beaten him.

    Crawford beating him better than Spence would put pressure on Spence to fight Crawford.
     
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    I can't see what made Brook the best WW? The only name he had fought was Shawn Porter. Every other fight was against a a nobody.
     
  13. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Lol Crawford wasnt even in the ww division and Spence was a novice
    Your a shyte troll but have amazing fanboyism skills
     
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  14. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    You cannot force somebody to fight you
    Risk reward
    Brook was to much risk no reward
    Only Spence had the nuts to man up
    Let's see if Crawford takes brook next
    Brook sure as hell wants it
     
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    Agree but spence was always going to beat brook, and brook is still top 2/3 @ ww