Johnny Nelson PED views

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  1. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just seen an interview where Johnny Nelson insists that PEDS do no improve your skills. He says how can taking any drug improve your jab technique....

    this whole opinion of taking drugs doesnt make you a better technical fighter is just utter stupidity or niavity. PEDS can help with your training massively, they can help you train harder, longer and recover faster and go again far fresher. Are people actually suggesting that if you have more time to practice, can practice harder and more often then you wont improve the thing you are practicing more? If I was start learning to jab or just looking to improve it, if I worked on this say for 4 hours a day 4 times a week without gear VS if I worked on it for 5 hours a day 5 times a week (the gear helps you train longer and recover better) that my jab wouldnt be better with the second regime than the 1st? Then it comes to fight night...if the PEDS you are taking helps with endurance then it will also help your skills. The first thing that starts to deteriorate with fatigue is your technique, if you can improve your stamina then the your technique will hold up longer, how is this not a benefit to your skills?
     
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  2. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    This is the same dude who went made about Guillermo Jones doing peds and said he should be banned for life and then not long after saying Kid Galahad deserves a second chance. Guys a fool.
     
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  3. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its not just he that believes it, seen a few fighters with the same opinion and many posters on here with the same opinion also
     
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  4. Unforgiven

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    Nelson's speaking from personal experience. He was a dreadful boxer with and without the PEDs.
     
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  5. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    Johnny has clearly took peds and either:

    1. Was one of the few who felt it didn't positivly affect his performance

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    2. Is trying to convince himself that he was a legitimate world champ, and that he would have been champ without the Ingle peds
     
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    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    There are 3 things I read about PED's in boxing all the time that just don't make sense at all.
    1. PED's hardly work in boxing because they don't improve your skills.
    2. If everyone is using PED's we create a level playingfield again, so they should allow it.
    3. Boxer A was caught X months ago but is off the PED's now, so it's a fair fight.
    Is there zero education on PED's in most countries? Do people even watch other sports' doping scandals? Can they actually think something like this trough?
     
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  7. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are PED's known for producing boring fighters?
     
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  8. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In his documentary he talks about how Brendan made him go onto to the weights a decent bit into his career to bulk up. You think this would have been the time? I remember him talking about it and Ingle told him that the more other fighters tell him to lay of the weights means that it is working ?
     
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  9. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HGH can promote bone growth... do people think that the bones and other body parts will just shrink again ?!?!
     
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  10. BXNG101

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    Johnny Nelson is a fckin idiot. Of course PEDS improve boxers. Saying otherwise is stupid.

    Yeah because having increased punch resistance and stamina isn't called improving. Honestly he should just fck off from our screens. The guy chats so much sht, it's unbelievable.
     
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  11. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    If thats true (i do not doubt you, im just not glued up on it) then that will explain why Shannon Briggs has fists the size of boulders
     
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  12. Fhaggis

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    Nelson is a clown, though in a way I see his point. Ignoring the. Fact they make you fitter, stronger etc they don't just "fix" your technique, if you can't jab or throw a left hook then your not just gonna be able to with peds. Though the peds will make it more likely that your left hook will hurt someone with increased power etc
     
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  13. Jurgen

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    Certainly produced a World Heavyweight Champion with a very boring style similar to Brighton & Hove Albion
     
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  14. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well his point wasnt about fitness it was about skill and technique. He is still wrong however!
     
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  15. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    wrong thread Jurgen i siad PEDs not PPVs !! :nonono
     
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