Holyfield vs 70s Ali

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who wins this absolute Brawl, if the Ali from the FOTC and Holyfield from Bowe 1 show up. Both losing efforts, how do they do against eachother?

    I'd take Holyfield on points (due to his incredibly underrated left hook and strength). In a brawl which would go down as one of the greatest of all time

    Bonus Question
    Who wins out of Bowe from Holyfield 1 and Frazier from FOTC?
     
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  2. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    FOTC Ali vs prime Holy is very close and he might have beaten him like Norton did. Holy was a stronger puncher than Ali was, I see him giving Frazier more problems.
    Frazier - Holyfield would be one of the most brutal fights you migth watch. These guys would punch life out of each other before either beeing stopped!

    Zaire Ali outboxes Holy for me in a UD.

    Bowe imho stops every Frazier after dropping him some times.
    I don´t know about Bowe - Ali though.
     
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  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    FOTC Ali damn near shuts Holy out.
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

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    How so?
    I think if they brawl, which they probably would, Holyfield takes a UD, but if not then yes I agree. But I can't see Ali exchanging with him like he did Joe
     
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  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    George Foreman stated that Evander Holyfield and Muhammad Ali punched equally hard.

    Also FOTC Ali was in better condition and more active than Zaire Ali. Which were both better than the out of condition blob that fought Ken Norton vs Muhammad Ali 1
     
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  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Why would Ali Brawl???
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

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    I don't know, he did with Norton and Frazier
     
  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I really dont think he did
     
  10. Gazelle Punch

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    Think it would be an easy fight for Ali in his prime. FOTC Ali still wins a decision but it’s a little closer. Think Holy not being used to 15 rounders with all that roid weight would slow down immensely in the final several rounds. I’d actually give 205 Holy a better shot at winning but I don’t think any version of Holy wins.
     
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  11. Greb & Papke 707

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    Pretty good fight, I maybe in the minority here but I think Holyfield takes it, he imo was a better all around fighter than Ali, either way it goes to the cards, two cast iron chins right there
     
  12. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Agree no version of Holy beats FOTC Ali or Frazier for that matter.
     
  13. Sting like a bean

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    This strikes me as one of the easiest calls in any fantasy matchup I've seen in a long time. Peak Holyfield wins a grueling but decisive UD. I'd bet serious money on exactly that outcome.

    It goes exactly the opposite way against '67 Ali.
     
  14. 70sFan

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    In my opinion there is no way Holyfield outboxes FOTC Ali. I have Ali winning maybe 10 rounds to 5. Norton had an awkward style that gave Ali trouble; Frazier applied an enormous amount of pressure, I don't believe Holyfield can do either. While I respect Holyfield for his skills I don't think he is in the same league as the all time great Ali.

    As for Joe Frazier, I don't think Holyfield has the punch to stop Joe from the kind of pressure Joe will put on him. Joe wins by close but clear decision.

    Bowe vs Frazier - Bowe is a big heavyweight which may give Frazier some problems although FOTC Frazier was at his best but rather small at 5'11" and 206. Bowe could be little lazy and didn't have the heart like Frazier - I think a close decision maybe split in Frazier's favor.
     
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  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    This would have been an excellent, excellent heavyweight matchup.