Would Crawford at 31 have beaten Manny P. from 2015 or 2009?

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  1. BoyBato

    BoyBato Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're right. Manny has been outboxed in stretches. Until he overwhelms them. Technically superior guys like MAB, morales, marquez were better boxers when pac fought them yet only one actually beat him(then pac obliterate him in the second and third fight) and he didn't do it easily. Regardless of what you think in the marquez fights but it was close and clearly the superior boxer marquez have a lot of trouble with a less technical pac. 31 yr old crawford may trouble 2009 pac but i still expect pac to bodybag him.
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Shockingly precise insight. Here I was thinking Crawford’s best chance would be prime, absolute peak Pacquiao.
     
  3. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So your saying he wasn’t prime when Eric beat him ? What about JMM putting him to sleep? And before you say this is hater talk I was thinking 09 Pac-Man was a little too much for Bud but the reality is 31 year old Bud would arguably be the best fighter he could face at 147 so this is a coin flip to me.
     
  4. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Pac was still very much a raw product against Erik, but physically, he was prime. JMM put a past prime Pac to sleep while doping heavily. Margarito took something out of Pac and softened him up for JMM.
     
  5. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Manny beats Bud going away
     
  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lmao, the weaving of the legends of the tales of the current welters when they still cannot fight each other.
     
  7. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    That Mosely was old, but he'd KO those Crawford opponents I mentioned.
     
  8. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can Crawford beat one b+ level fighter first please. How good you look is all relative to your competition.
     
  9. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    2015 crawf

    2009. Pac (atleast until i see crawf take down a good scalp at 147 such as spence)
     
  10. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    FMJ is the only fighter around that weight at that time that would beat manny. Manny cuts through Crawford like butter
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Gamboa was careful no way could Manny try and KO a powerful counter puncher like Crawford without getting countered, he was open to the right hand when he jabbed because he used to leave his rear hand low as he jabbed, you need the jab v Crawford and his jab was far longer and smarter tan Manny`s jab.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Bud is far more powerful than anyone Manny ever fought at welter.
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tim said he sparred with a young Bud and couyldn`t understand how Crawford was doing the things he was doing in their, Tim ssaid he had never fought anyone on tat level before in sparring or in pro fights.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Manny used to get hit quite a bit, Gamboa was far more careful than Manny was.
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I don`t think Manny`s jaw was tested at welter, he was also knocked out by JMM, I don`t think he was iron jawed unles you`re talking about punchers he faced at the lower weights, Bud is more powerful than any welter Pac ever fought.