What Middleweight in history would you pick to stop prime Hagler?

Gene Fullmer had a great chin but Robinson was able to take him out once in 4 fights. He was old though. Fullmer tough as nails, rough and dirty but he wasn't Hagler.
On the other hand he was able to stop LaMotta in their lone title fight. Jake had never been never dropped and really stopped. Who had a better chin than LaMotta?
Playing Devil's advocate but Hagler was more skilled and didn't stick his chin out there and take the same clean shots Jake did. Naturally he would be tougher to stop.

 

Watched the Cyclone Hart fight last week. Hart wasn't the greatest fighter by any means, but the guy had a left hook from hell and he was teeing off on Hagler on at least a few occasions with brutal punches, and I never saw Marvin take a step back.

 

Truth is, the fighters with the best shots would probably be the middleweights who came up recently ... because of the weigh-ins today.

When Hagler was fighting, boxers weighed in a few hours before the actual fight.

Not 36 hours before.

As a result, guys who fought as middleweights or for the middleweight title back then actually weighed at or below 160. Hagler actually weighed in around 157 THEY DAY OF THE FIGHT for some bouts.

Take a fighter like Danny Jacobs. He weighed in at light heavyweight the morning of his fight with Canelo (more than 12 hours before they got in the ring) and admitted he weighed around 185 when he entered the ring for Golovkin.

Jacobs would outweigh Hagler by 25 to 30 pounds when they entered the ring. And Hagler didn't move up to light heavyweight for a reason. He was a middleweight.

Hell, junior middleweights today like Hurd walk around at more than 200 pounds.

My initial reaction to seeing the title of this post was no one likely stops Hagler. Truth is, one of these jokers today probably would have a good shot, because Hagler would look almost anorexic and like he belonged in a much smaller division compared to them.

If the guys today were fighting when Hagler was a champ, Spence, Thurman and Porter would be middleweights. Because they weigh 160 when they get in the ring.

For what it's worth, I don't see any of them stopping Hagler.

 

"...he admitted he weighed 185 when he entered the ring..."

Yeah, sorry I have to call bull**** on this. I don't buy it for a second. Go to google images and search "Danny Jacobs vs Golovkin," then search "Hagler vs Hearns" in another tab and compare the two sets of results. Jacobs doesn't look even slightly more muscular than Hagler or Hearns and he damn sure doesn't make them look anorexic. Also, there is simply no way to safely take in 25 pounds of fluid in a matter of hours and even if there were, little if anything more is known about how to go about this than was known ~1985.

I don't mean to be a dick but claims like this bury the needle on my bull**** detector and I'm going to have to see some very solid evidence before I take them even slightly seriously.

edit: just two examples taken from the first clear images in each set of results:

Hagler: [url]https://www.thefightcity.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Hagler_v_Hearns_2-777.jpg[/url]

Jacobs: [url]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/boxing/2017/03/19/JS123721719_Getty-Images-North-America_Gennady-Golovkin-v-Daniel-Jacobs_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqSw79nE3l8SOw4C3ksvYc0APldBgyAkbfwwWDrPw5WZk.jpg?imwidth=450[/url]

 

What I want to know is how long it takes him to lose that much weight; if it's anything inside about six weeks, it's apparently okay to quit during the fight and have a do-over. Ask Duran's fans.

 

i think3g might when he has developed from world class to atg

 

No way did Jones punch harder than Hearns and Roy would be negative as hell against an offensive monster like Marvin, Hagler would be far motre likely to stop Jones, Roy never stopped anyone with a chin like Hagler`s or anyone as rough, I think Hagler might out-reach him also.

 

He couldn`t even stop a tired Canelo and doesn`t punch as hard as Hearns did.

 

Marvin had a better chin than anyone Monzon didn`t stop.

 

If Jones couldn`t stop Hopkins while he was coming forwards how the hell would he have stopped Hagler? McClellan would have been countered all over the place if he went all out against Hagler, maybe that`s why he lost to Benn who didn`t have a great chin like Marvin.

 

Although I understand your point about the earlier weigh ins and rehydration, I don't think any of today's middleweights stand a cold chance in hell beating Hagler (much less knocking him out). Danny Jacobs power would not deter Hagler in the least. Marvin would absolutely demolish Jacobs in less than 6-8 rounds (if Jacobs waa lucky).

 

Sure some would beat him but stopping him I don't see it!

 

I'm not saying Jacobs would stop him. I was just using him as an example of the ridiculous weight differences between the current era and Hagler's from the 1970s and early to mid 80s.

Hagler fought his whole career as a middleweight. He often weighed below the middleweight limit a few hours before fights.

It's not an apples to apples comparison anymore. The guys we see in the ring fighting for a middleweight title would've been the guys we saw in the ring fighting for the light heavyweight title in Hagler's era.

And Hagler didn't move up and fight guys like Galindez or Saad or Spinks for a reason. He was a middleweight. They were light heavys.

Now, they have to pui clauses in deals so guys don't blow post the light heavyweight limit before they step in the ring to fight for a middleweight belt. It's INSANE.

For almost 30 years, the majority of middleweights were light heavys when they stepped in the ring, if they weren't cruiserweights. Collectively, that pool of "middleweights" has he best chance of stopping Hagler. Not the middleweights from the eras before Hagler.

 

You can look at all the IMAGES you like.

Danny Jacobs said last week he entered the ring between 180 and 185 for Golovkin.

Hagler never entered the ring at 180 to 185 in his life. He might not weigh that NOW.

Jacobs states it around 1:20. So you can put all your photos away.

If Jacobs fought in the 1970s/early 1980s, he'd be a light heavyweight. Not a middleweight. Same with all of them. When we see two middleweights in the ring today, we're watching two light heavyweights IN THE RING. Neither of them IN THE RING weighs below 160.

So it's more difficult to compare modern middleweights with middleweights of the past, because modern middleweights aren't middleweights when they step in the ring. They're usually two divisions (or sometimes three) above middleweight.

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Yeah, sorry but I couldn't care less what Jacobs says without proof.