Exactly from June 91 until Aug 95 he didn't fight that's 4 years and 2 months. From June 97 until Jan 99 he didnt fight ,that's a further 1year and 7 months , totalling together, 5 years and 9 months. By the time Tyson fought Botha and the others mentioned he was nearly 33 years old and had had two enforced periods of inactivity totalling nearly 6 years! You wonder what people expect?
This. Tyson in the mid 90’s was all hype and was very carefully matched and for good reason, since he wasn’t even half as good as he used to be, but fans were still willing to pay a fortune to see him. He wouldn’t even take a fight with Bert Cooper.
So you are this stupid... I mentioned Foreman because that was a case of cherry picking. Tyson won 2 belts after prison, how is that cherry picking? Typical Tyson bashing thread on your behalf.
try looking at this from somewhere further out than the trunk of the tree. Maybe even 2 branches out will suffice. Tyson was signed w/ DKP. He had vulnerable champs on ice waiting for Tyson to return to anything near his original form. Why do you think Bruno had the bout with Oliver anyway? Because there was nobody else available? Nope. Frank's style is all wrong for a Tyson. they could fight 15x and Frank loses everytime. All he can do is hopefully win a round. Seldon? Or another DKP champion. did you actually know anyone picking Seldon to win the fight w/ Tyson? He holds that chin way up in the air. All Tyson has to do is come behind the Seldon jab, even if it lands. walk through it and he cannot miss Seldon's head. As for the fight itself, pretty much on par with the Harrison effort against Haye as the worst all time effort put in a title bout. and that guy was a champion? And Seldon himself could fight Tyson 15x and would never win. So then we saw Evander. But Evander was coming off the less than inspiring Czyz effort. Former middleweight Bobby Czyz and he wasn't all that good as a middle. But the Tyson camp thought Evander was ripe for the taking.
This is a good post. To start backward, I think Wilder is a belt milking fraud of an alphabet champion, who has just one top ten win, ( over an old man, in a fight he was in trouble . ) and was very lucky to earn an official draw as Fury won that fight clearly. We have already seen his best. AN * or two if I may. Tyson only fought Bruno once in the 1990's and Bruno was old, / barely had enough gas left in his tan to beat a semi-motivated Oliver Mcall in the fight before. The other time Tyson fought Bruno was was in the 1980's. How Seldon was rated in hindsight wobbles the mind, but he was. In my initial post, I said aside from his big money fights with Holyfield. I still say aside from Ruddock ( which happened in the early 1990s ), Tyson did not go near any puncher in his prime, and I am correct. The list of names is too hard to ingnore and Tyson's had the bowe fight if he wanted it. He was supposed to face Morirson, but that never happened and Corrie Sanders name was often linked to who Tyson would fight next. Tyson most certainly did cherry pick his share, but at least you could say the fought some top ten talent during the 1990's..the type that was poorly rated in hindsight for the most part and were not punchers in their prime.
No, you mentioned Foreman because you wanted to find a better cherry pick in the 1990's. You are fooling nobody. Be honest. Looking at it on paper, Foreman fought better puncher's in the 1990's over Tyson, and did much better vs Holyfield. If you read my replies, I think they are fair, I even tipped a hat to another poster who came up with a good argument for Tyson fighting some talent in the 1990's. I guess you could say Tyson won Seldon's belt, who he picked up from a past his best Tony Tucker and act like that matters. It was a vacant belt fight fight between Seldon and Tucker. Tucker was no where near being ranked!!! If you have an IQ slightly above stupid, you'll see this was a Don King type of play, to get Tyson in with the winner, and " claim " a belt.
About Morrison, the fight didn't happen because he had stds. Bowe is just as much to blame if not more. The guy ducked serious punchers all throughout his career. Other than hide and cooper he has a suspicious shortage of big punchers. Tyson fought plenty of hard hitters and worthy contenders in both the 80's and 90's as others have pointed out. Could he have fought more guys? Sure, but deep dowm Tyson knew he wqsnt the same fighter and no longer had the motivation after such devastating back to back losses to his rival holyfield who everyone said he was better than. He gave it one last hurrah against Lennox and took his beating like a man. While its true he never avenged his losses, i have nothing but respect for him going out kn his shield and giving the fans their money's worth.
Golden Feather destroyed your previous posts. Get over yourself. Nobody worth note agrees with you. Tyson beat Seldon who beat Tucker for the vacant WBA belt, a belt Foreman was stripped of for refusing to face Tucker, the #1 contender. The pan was for Tyson to unify the belts and fight the most money making bouts after that. The plan was to defend against Holyfield, Foreman, Morrison, Bowe, Lewis or whoever was the last man standing. Unfortunately Tyson lost to Holyfield before he could unify against Moorer. How the hell is that cherry picking? You're a fool.
This same sort of stuff has being thrown at every heavyweight champ since John L ! Apart from maybe Ali and Holyfield ,every Champ has being called out for not fighting so and so and avoiding fighter x .Tyson came out of Jail ,picked up two belts then lost to Holy .Tben for one reason or another it was hit and miss till he faced Lewis .But i def dont see a pattern of him avoiding certain guys because of Fear or whatnot .Just the way things played out with Tyso s life style at the time .
do you think Tyson was a cherry picker in his comeback? Holyfield twice, Ruddock twice and Bruno is better than , for instance, both Klitshckos best opponents combined (byrd, hide, sam peter + sanders). Hey, I wonder what you think of the Klitshckos. (removing common opponents since they wont count in a comparison)
I'm sorry this is silly. From June 1991 until Aug 95 Tyson did not fight at all! After prison he had 2 warm up fights to shake the rust off, I think that is permissible after over 4 years out of the sport! He then fought the WBA Champion ,followed by the WBC champion ,then Holyfield . He then rematched Holyfield now the number 1 contender.Tyson then had his licence revoked
