The Fear Of Ortiz Is Real

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  1. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This aged well lol
     
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  2. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    That's why people are cutting Ortiz down. There was a time when Wilder hater said Wilder would never face Ortiz. Once the fight was penned, Ortiz became a geriatric with a serious heart condition. Never giving Wilder credit.
     
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  3. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So what does it say that Ortiz is clearly ducking AJ?
     
  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    He probably feels he could get more if he beat some other belt holders or maybe feels he will lose, which puts him on the outside looking in. At his age, he can't afford any set backs, so planning his future in the sport, however short it may be, is crucial. Basically try maximizing his potential before saling out.
     
  5. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think he will get anywhere near a $7000000 offer again.

    Perfect retirement package right there. His only angle is getting the Wilder rematch, beating him (if Breazeale doesn't) then demanding more vs AJ.

    Or what is more likely is like what many others had said: he wouldn't get passed the VADA testing and then loses any chance of another payday.
     
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  6. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Losing to Wilder for 500K wasnt a set back ,as he stepped off the AJ mandatory line ?

    Braindamage in itself the name ,how will you win debates on a forum with it ? smh
     
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  7. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    He still has options that get him decent pay. A few good wins could put him in a better position with AJ. Or, to answer your question, he may just be scared of AJ. Who knows?
     
  8. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Ortiz either juicing or plain scared of AJ... I'm guessing the first if I'm honest, as I don't like to think any fghter is genuinly "scared". I would bet he's gutted he's missed out on $7m but he couldnt risk being caught out again. So the Wilder fight is just has to be.

    These are the only logical answers.

    To say he is risking a Wilder fight in order to better posistion himself for AJ later is moronic. Ortiz was and is garbage and was the boogeyman only to Wilder fans. He will likely get KO'd again for maybe $1m this time against Wilder and then he will never hear off AJ again.
    Terrible duck in reality. That money would of set him and his family up for life. He will NEVER get a pay anywhere near this level offered to him again. Even in 2 fights with Widler.
    Retirement party soon Luis Ortizn't!
     
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  9. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Heres Ortiz 's future

    1. No big title fight if Breazeale wins.

    2. Fury does do a rematch with wilder in 2019. And ?

    3.Wilder does rematch Ortiz and then ???Is this a decent pay?

    My own 4th answer is , is he scared of AJ ? He knows its less chance of winning its why he CHOSE Wilder in 2018 in the first place .

    NOW he cant choose bc of Haymon,so is he scared ? Not really,he probably doesn't mind getting knocked out for what team Joshua is giving him,as he lost a mando spot for Joshua but knows he wont make that money following fools . A Wilder win makes a AJ fight still of 2020 so how smart really is it ? lol
     
  10. Camaris

    Camaris Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This. C'mon people. No forty-something prizefighter turns down 7 mill. It doesn't matter if you turn up and find a comfy spot to lie down, you're doing it. Ortiz is not twenty eight, angling himself into some superior negotiating position in two years time. The answer is obvious and there is literally only one explanation. Fine. But let's stop fanboying about it.
     
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  11. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Another classic thread from the OP.. Is he still posting?
     
  12. Brighton bomber

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    No doubt some of the criticism he's gotten was to belittle Wilder's achievement as it's really the only good win on Wilder's record 40 fights, nearly 11 years as a pro and 9 title fights.

    But let's be honest people were being critical of Ortiz even before he agreed to fight Wilder. He looked poor vs Scott and Allen, when he should of dominated these very much over matched opponents. I for one was critical of him even before the Scott fight I said Scott would give him problems leading up to that fight as he has slow feet.

    As for the heart condition issue, well that's actually true. He was on blood pressure meds and the commission almost pulled him from the fight, it's not something people have made up, so you have to wonder what kind of condition he was in leading up to the Wilder fight. But then again does it really matter as he was never as good as some hyped him to be anyway, he has big flaws in his game which the top guys like Wilder can exploit.
     
  13. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Haha, City don't want no Canaries smoke.
     
  14. Brighton bomber

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    The meaning of this thread title has changed since it was originally posted, how ironic.

    The fear of Ortiz is real, lol.

    We can also quantify his fear now, it's in excess of $7 mill USD, though to be fair that's an insignificant amount of fear compared to Wilder $120 mill USD level of fear.
     
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  15. HerolGee

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    the fear of having someone so old on your resume surely is real, it would ruin your cred.Just look at wilder.