Trivia: non-champ with most wins against champs

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  2. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So how many do you have for Langford?
     
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  3. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Well then the question is skewed towards the alphabet title era. Thus making no sense.
     
  4. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a trivia question. A factual thing, that doesn't have to be fair or make any sense. Don't you get that?
     
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  5. Dubblechin

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    Brian Nielsen had wins over:

    *Larry Holmes (former World Heavyweight Champ)
    *Tim Witherspoon (former WBA and WBC Heavyweight Champ)
    *Tony Tubbs (former WBA Heavyweight Champ)
    *Bonecrusher Smith (former WBA Heavyweight Champ)
    *Carlos DeLeon (former WBC Cruiserweight Champ)
    *Orlin Norris (former WBA Cruiserweight Champ)
    *Jeff Lampkin (former IBF Cruiserweight Champ)
    *Uriah Grant (former IBF Light Heavyweight Champ)


    Not to mention TKO losses to Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield.
     
  6. George Crowcroft

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    5
    Tiger Flowers, Philadelphia Jack O'Brien, Peter Jackson, Jack Blackburn, Joe Gans

    Looks like I was wrong, the rest of his résumé is high ranked contenders
     
  7. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, the Dane has 8 wins on his record over world champions - surprisingly many (considering his somewhat meager talent), but a long way from the answer to this question.
     
  8. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    If you were to count the "colored" heavyweight championship then it'd probably be Langford
     
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  9. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can understand why someone (and I'm sure, you're not the only one!) would think, Langford must be a prime candidate for the correct answer to a question like this. After all, he has an insane record with the most fights ever against HOFers.

    However, he didn't meet all that many champions, and can boast of only 6 wins against world title holders:
    Dixie Kid x 2
    O'brien
    Ketchel
    Flowers
    Gans
     
  10. George Crowcroft

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    I don't know I missed Kid and Ketchel, but looking through he has Jackson as well, he reportedly won a fight for a 148lb I (assume that's old middleweight?) title
     
  11. KasimirKid

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    Not that he had the most wins against champions, but I thought this would be a good thread to point out the superb record which Johnny Indrisano had against champions: six wins, one loss. He defeated Joe Dundee, Tommy Freeman, Vince Dundee, Jackie Fields, and Lou Brouillard twice. His only loss was by split decision to Brouillard.
     
  12. KasimirKid

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    Lloyd Marshall's record against champions was eight wins and eight losses. He defeated eight different champions: Ken Overlin, Babe Risko, Teddy Yarosz, Lou Brouillard, Ezzard Charles, Anton Christoforidis, Jake LaMotta, and Joey Maxim.

    Addendum: As pointed out by Bukkake and Rainer below, the above list failed to mention a ninth champion Marshall defeated -- Freddie Mills. I apologize for this inexcusable oversight.

    I submit that this series of accomplishments, i. e.,Mashall having defeated nine different champions, is at least as impressive as Mike Gibbons' 10 victories over seven different champions. I assume, however that our forum members are likely to come up with more candidates as the thread progresses!
     
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  13. Bukkake

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    Marshall also holds a win over Freddie Mills - so that's 9 wins against world champions for him.
     
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  14. SolomonDeedes

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    If the colored title counts then Langford's disqualified for being a champion himself.
     
  15. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Out of curiosity… what makes you say that? I get the feeling, that you think the question somehow is deliberately constructed in such a way, that it "favours" the modern boxers.

    But this is not an opinion thread - about who is "best" or "greatest". So no era is getting "favoured" over any other era. It's just an innocent question, people (hopefully) can have som fun with, when trying to find the answer. Why the negative attitude?