How good was Irish Billy Collins?

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  1. Greb & Papke 707

    Greb & Papke 707 Active Member Full Member

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    could he have been anything if Louie Resto hadn’t cheated and ruined his career?
     
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  2. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. No defense. A heavy bag with arms. He could have fought again. His dad said no because he hoped to win a lawsuit.
     
  3. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who knows?

    Didn't appear to have any defense.

    Probably would have been a fringe contender type.
     
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  4. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Collins was tough as nails. I'm sure he could find a way to the top

    Dunno how long his career would last there, with the whole lack-of-defense, but I'm sure it would've been a fun time for the division
     
  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He died in a car wreck several months after a man with no padding on his gloves criminally beat his face to a pulp.

    You wanna cite a source for him passing a medical to ever fight again and being cleared to do so? Or you just talking out of your ass? Don’t bother answering, we know.
     
  6. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most likely he'd have continued beating lesser competition, eventually building an impressive sounding record, then losing badly in a bigger money fight against a better fighter. The champions of that era would have destroyed him (Hearns, Duran, McCallum). Guys like Mark Medal or Carlos Santos would have been his only hopes of beating for a title in that era. I doubt he'd have fought guys like Medal or Santos though...wrong choices for a career path like Collins was on. For a fighter like Collins, with some marketability but not as much skill, there's no point in fighting a guy like Medal who could very well beat him and there wouldn't even be much money to be made. So probably wins over nobodies and fringe contenders, then a brutal defeat to McCallum.
     
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  7. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Then in 2009 Eric Drath made a documentary about the fight, based around Resto and entitled Assault In The Ring. In the documentary Resto finally admitted that he knew about the doctored gloves and claimed that, furthermore, Panama Lewis applied plaster to his handwraps to harden them, and gave him a ‘magic potion’ during the fight – water mixed with ground-up asthma medication – in order to open the lungs and give him a second wind.

    During the film he met Collins’s widow to ask for forgiveness and admitted to his own estranged wife and sons that, yes, he had cheated."

    Long article on the "Collins fight" & Resto here:
    http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/the...lins-has-stayed-with-everyone-it-has-touched/
     
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  8. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was actually in "Assault In The Ring" dumbass. Pay attention and maybe you would learn nancy boy.
     
  9. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Irish Billy Collins defeated future world champ Harold Brazier on pts. Hard to say how far he could have gone but i could see a career similar to Irish boxer Sean Manion who went the distance with the Body Snatcher for WBA title.
     
  10. Saintpat

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    No it’s not. Nowhere in there does his father say Billy had passed medical exams allowing him to return to the ring nor that he chose not to allow his son to do so to win a lawsuit. You are literally making up and/or twisting stuff and presenting it as fact.
     
  11. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His father didnt say it the narrater did Sheilla
     
  12. The Morlocks

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