POLL: Which fighters would you favor over Joe Louis?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mrkoolkevin, Apr 28, 2019.



Who would you favor against Joe Louis?

  1. Jack Dempsey

  2. Rocky Marciano

  3. Muhammad Ali

  4. George Foreman

  5. Larry Holmes

  6. Mike Tyson

  7. Lennox Lewis

  8. Wlad Klitschko

  9. Vitali Klitschko

  10. NONE OF THE ABOVE

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  1. CarlChilders

    CarlChilders Member banned Full Member

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    Lol there is no such thing as a super heavyweight. This is why I know you are a casual fan. Casual fans started using the term super heavyweight in the last few years because they heard somebody else say it. Nobody ever referred to Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, Michael Grant or any other fighter who was 6'4 plus as a super heavyweight. Billy Conn couldn't punch. Bert Cooper could. Walcott was a 190 pound fighter you casual fan. Which means he wasn't a heavyweight. Schemling was 190 pounds. Both of these 190 pound guys knocked Louis down various times. Baer fought in a era where the average heavyweight was 180 pounds. So his best wins were against guys smaller than him. So Buddy Baer and Max Baer were nobodies compared to modern heavyweights.

    Bert Cooper was a massive punch who had drug problems. Also Evander Holyfield actually did fight modern sized heavyweights and beat them. Holyfield did actually fight modern sized and modern skilled black heavyweights and beat them. Joe Louis on the other hand fought mostly white guys and mostly 180 pound guys. So as I stated Joe Louis by modern standards would be considered a club fighter. There is no way some slow plodding glass chin club fighter like Joe Louis could beat any half way decent modern heavyweigfht.
     
  2. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Don't feed the troll.
     
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  3. CarlChilders

    CarlChilders Member banned Full Member

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    Which is why I block you. Bye bye troll. Lol keep believing a 190 pound fighter could beat a 220 plus pound fighter. Bye bye troll.
     
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  4. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Don't feed the troll.
     
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  5. Blaxx

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    None I would favour. For all his said weaknesses, he had the tools to exploit everyone's on that list too. And if he got an opening he'd be very unforgiving, only Tyson matches him there. I give Ali, Tyson and Lewis 50/50 chances, but I cant favour any of them
     
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  6. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who could? No fighter past, present or future could've avoided those technical and unavoidable punches.
     
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  7. CarlChilders

    CarlChilders Member banned Full Member

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    Joe Louis struggled with 170 pound light punching Billy Conn. Conn wasn't fast or strong or anything else. Yet he hurt Louis badly was winning at the time he was stopped. Yeah but the 6'3 230 pound Foreman 6'4 3/4 230 pound Lennox Lewis.The 5'10 220 pound tank Mike Tyson. The 6'5 240 pound Wladimir Klitschko and 6'7 240 pound Vitali Klistchko, The 6'4 1/2 230 pound Riddick Bowe, David Tua, Ron Lyle ect couldn't hurt Joe Louis. Typical old senile want to be expert old timer logic. Logic would dictate that guys like a prime Roy Jones Jr could beat Joe Louis. If Conn could almost do it then why not the superior athlete Roy Jones Jr.
     
  8. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    I wouldn't count his chances against the super-heavyweights (barring Foreman) or Tyson. Too overwhelming for him. Holmes and Ali are pick-em fights, they present a lot of issues with their styles but I think Louis' sharp punching could put either of them away. Marciano and Dempsey he beats.
     
  9. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At his best I wouldn't favor anybody on the list to beat Joe Louis.
     
  10. CarlChilders

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    If Max Schmeling a average 190 pound fighter could knock Joe Louis stupid then any modern sized cruiserweight today would do it. Then you realize Max started his career weighing as low as 163 pounds. Then you realize Schmeling was a super middleweight then he turned pro. Which would mean any other half way decent super middleweight today would beat Joe Louis. Joe Louis was fortunate enough to fight in a era were the average heavyweight was 175/180 pounds. He is lucky enough to fight in a era where the skill level was so poor. He is lucky to fight in a era where the bigger guys were even more unskilled. If you casual fans honestly think a 6'1 190 pound glass chin guy like Joe Louis could stand right in front of George Foreman, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Vitali and Wladimir Klistchkon David Tua, Ike Ibeabuchi, Anthony Joshua or even the wild swinging Deontay Wilder and not be knocked out then you should just stop watching boxing. I know what some of you clueless casuals willl type. But Lennox Lewis, Wladimir K, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder have poor chins. These guys were knocked out or knocked down by modern sized heavyweights. They weren't knocked out by blown up 160 pound guys like Max Schmeling, They weren't hurt by light punching light heavyweights like Billy Conn.

    Sloppy overweight club fighters like Tony Galento hurt Joe Louis twice and knocked him down once. Tami Mauriello hurt Joe Louis badly. 190 pound Jersey Joe Walcott knocked Louis down at least two times ( I know some casual will say Walcott was a big puncher. He was a good puncher for a 190 pound guy not a modern sized heavyweight) Jim Braddock who wasn't even a big puncher knocked Joe Louis down. Joe Louis beat Abe Simon a bigger guy. The casual fans won't tell you that both times Louis fought Simon he was coming off a lost. The first time he was coming off a lost against Jim Thompson and the second time he was coming off a knock out lost to Lem Franklin who beat Simon easier than Louis did. I should also tell you that both fights against Simon were in title fights. How do you lose a fight and get rewarded a title fight in your next fight? Louis beat Buddy Baer a big slow lumbering oaf in Baer's last two fights. Max Baer was a crude unskilled fighter. Louis beat so many bums during this title reign they started calling these guys the bum of the month club.

    You clueless old senile boxing fans think George Foreman, Ali, Tyson, Bowe, Lennox Lewis, Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko ect would of lost to any of these people Louis beat? Get the heck out of here. Hell that era was so weak even guys like Charles Martin would of dominated. It cracks me up when casuals try to use the old "Well this guy was good 60 years old in his era so that must mean he would be good in the modern era. Or how you old casuals love to try to put these 170 to 190 pound fighters like Gene Tunney, Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey ect against modern skilled and modern sized heavyweights. The old Gene Tunney was champion back in the late 20's or 30's and since the 6'8 250 pound Michael Grant never became champion that means Tunney could beat him. Casual boxing fans are clearly the worse "fans" of any sport.
     
  11. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    When he was a teenager, he was 30 when he beat Louis.
     
  12. CarlChilders

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    Too be honest if overweight club fighter Tony Galento could hurt Joe Louis and knock him down then why couldn't Eric "Butterbean" Esch? You old casual boxing fans love to bring up historically speaking . This isn't historically speaking. This is facts. Name on modern sized black heavyweight Joe Louis even fought. The best black fighters he faced were the 170 to 180 pound Ezzard Charles and the 190 pound Jersey Joe Walcott. Joe Louis is so bad by modern standards that I would even pick middleweights like GGG to beat him. Billy Conn started his career weighing 135. So he is much smaller than GGG in reality. Conn couldn't break a egg with his punch. Conn couldn't punch through a wet piece of toilet paper. Yet he could hurt Joe Louis badly. But you don't think other harder punching middleweights couldn't do it?