Ranks higher P4P but would lose H2H

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  1. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Name some examples of fighters you rank higher than others but think they would lose Head to head.
     
  2. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster I check this every now and then Full Member

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    I rank Jack Johnson higher than Lennox Lewis but I think Lewis would knock him out
    I rank Larry Holmes higher than Jack Dempsey but I think Dempsey would knock him out
    I rank Barney Ross higher but I think Benny Leonard would steal a decision from him

    I rank alot of people over the likes of Max Baer, Ike Ibeabuchi, Gerald McClellan, etc, but I rate them highly H2H.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I got Jack O'Brien higher than Toney, but I'd pick Toney.


     
  4. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I rank Sugar Ray Robinson higher than Frank Bruno but I think Bruno would knock him out.
    I rank Willie Pep higher than Deontay Wilder but I think Wilder would knock him out.
    I rank Roberto Duran higher than Earnie Shavers but I think Shavers would knock him out.
    I rank Manny Pacquiao higher than Nicolai Valuev but I think Valuev would knock him out.
     
  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster I check this every now and then Full Member

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    I would actually be interested in this one

    If there was a ref who was super uptight about the rules and didn't let Valuev get physical, this would be interesting

    Manny would have to jump to hit him, but Valuev has the speed and pace of an obese smoker.

    I predict Valuev via comeback KO after being behind on scorecards
     
  6. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Manny beats Valuev by UD
     
  7. 2piece

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    Montreal Duran destroys all comers.
     
  8. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And New Orleans Duran loses to everyone because he was out of shape and has an excuse.
     
  9. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    You can make the case with several bare knuckle/ turn of the century boxers, such as 'Nonpareil' Jack Dempsey etc. Though this is often down to the major differences in rulesets.

    As for more modern fighters, there are several smaller men that I rank above Jung Koo Chang, but I think he would beat them.

    I've always felt Freddie Steele would beat Mickey Walker also.
     
  10. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitali Klitschko against any HW.
     
  11. h8me

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    Right, 'cause he lost to the only quality opponent he fought. Who was old, unprepared and pastprime. That's why Vitali is so good H2H.
     
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  12. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    a fight he was winning big on the cards and lost by freak injury the same as Chris Byrd
     
  13. h8me

    h8me Member Full Member

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    Lennox butchered his face. There are thousands of pages about this fight, stop with this nonsense already.
     
  14. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok? Vitali was winning the fight on the cards. In fact he's never been down on the cards in his career at any point in any fight in his career
     
  15. h8me

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    Because he didn't fight anybody meaningful.