Wilder/Breazeale Post Fight: AJ is Scared, Wilder is Trash/Great. Who Hits Harder Dump Thread.

I agree with the original poster, which of course means that somehow I am a hater if you are a Wilder fan hahaha. But y'all are a bunch of short bus ******s so I couldn't care less what you think about me. Wilder Koed Breazeale early. Wilder's punch stats were 9 of 35. That means he missed a lot. Against someone who can counter punch, he will get tagged a lot and it will be a different fight. Also, Breazeale was no champion. He was a durable boxer with heart and limited skills. He was perfect for Wilder to look good against. If Wilder were to do this against Whyte, Povetkin, Pulev, Joshua, Klitschko, Parker or anybody decent, you'd have to give him props. But he will never fight any of these guys unless he gets retirement money hahahah. Which is kind of my point. It's easy to look amazing against a guy like Breazeale but wake me up when Wilder fights someone really good. And not someone that is fake good like Ortiz, who's best win is against Jennings. And not a 50% Fury either. Y'all have gone from saying that Wilder has power to "Wilder is the most powerful boxer of all time" hahaha. You seem to forget that Tyson, Shavers, Foreman, Liston, these guys fought the best of their era. Wilder hasn't gone near any of the best of this era except Fury, who was fresh out of rehab. Also, Molina gave Wilder fits through 9 while AJ played with him for 3 rounds. You Wilder fanboys need to keep that same energy.

 

No they were not clean at all, they were desperate punches.

The doctors before the fight claimed Ortiz shouldn't be let to fight. In the round 7(?) he totally gassed out. If he didn't have health problems his condition would probably look much better.

No one is denying that Wilder has more power than any other HW right now. That does not change the fact that AJ's straight right, uppercut or left hook would've put him down.

 

Valuev's never even been down in his career let alone stopped, if Wilder landed his explosive right on Valuev's chin would've been interesting to see what happened.

 

A few in attendance where of the opinion that Breazeale shouldn't even have been given a count, should have been waived off immediately... the guy was GONE. He has NEVER fallen to the canvas in that fashion... doesn't take a detective to realise he was badly hurt and not going to continue.

Wilder turned his back immediately with that feeling of "just knowing" that it was over. That's from 41 KO experience, of just knowing when the punch lands correctly, lights out irene, and the feedback loop confirms it.

Stop saying Breazeale was good to continue.

 

Wilder would never land on Sugar Nikolai Valuev.

 

Not working against gravity, no...

 

We will find out soon enough, fact of the matter is no matter how you look at it... Wilder put far superior performance against Breazeale than AJ did. That is a fact.

And Wilder can and will catch AJ in the same exact fashion, that is another fact.... because AJ is not going to be able to avoid it.

Desperate vs Clean? They mean different things.... a clean punch is a punch that lands with power... regardless if it is desperate or not.

Desperate merely means the fashion in which the event took place, not a description of the result.

I saw the fight, and I saw Breazeale land CLEAN, as in connected.. with the same punch he used to put down Izu and Negron...

Breazeale has ALWAYS been a desperate puncher, because his targeting system sucks... poor accuracy, always flailing trying to land...

Wilder is the hardest hitter of all time, more than any other previous ATG IMHO

 

No, since he couldn't even KO an inferior chinned Johann Duhaupas who was walking through all of Wilder's best / most powerful punches and could not get enough of those feather-fisted refreshments, coming from the hands of Wilder.

All those jokers Wilder has knocked out, are a testament to them having glass jaws, than Wilder having power that is anything that special.

 

Can we start calling Wilder One Punch Man?

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Who Should AJ fight to Prepare for Wilder???
Ruiz is nothing like Wilder, practically polar opposite. AJ proved he doesn't want Wilder when he pick Ruiz over Hunter.

I gave DB 0% chance vs Wilder
I thought the fight was a death sentence for DB (no offense). I picked Breazele as the underdog in two fights & won (Mansour/Izu Ugnoh) I like DB.

With that said I would give Andy Ruiz 0% chance vs Wilder as well. Sadly I've seen nearly all Ruiz fights & he's just too flat footed for Wilder. I think Wilder has cracked the code on how to beat slow footed Heavyweights. AJ=Slow footed!! Stiff very Stiff, open like a catcher's mitt for the right hand.

AJ has to put it on Ruiz, in no reality does Ruiz beat Wilder.
Americans will laugh their asses off if the Chalupa King marches forward & picks AJ apart until Ruiz exhausts.

 

+ Wilder goes insane when he has you hurt, he's not like Wlad who stays patient and methodical.

 

People will point to his ability to be outboxed, and point to lower tier fighters like Ortiz and Breazelle and a couple others that have landed flush on him and may be even stunned him...

But to me thats just a testament to his chin. Wilder has been hit, he's been stunned, and he's stayed on his feet and did what he had to do to end the fight. and hes done so without excessive holding or running.

Just for comparison, I don't think either AJ or Fury can take as good of a punch. I'm not saying either guy hasn't picked themselves up off the canvas and continued fighting before, just that they don't withstand the punishment as well...

And in Fury's case, i still believe Wilder cracked his shell..... the next solid punch he takes to the chin and he's gonna do the old Trevor Berbick. .

In my estimation, even though Wilders boxing ability isn't the best in the division, his KO capability certainly is...and of the 3 top recognized fighters in the division I'd say Wilder has toughest chin.

I'd pick him in a quick KO rematch over the Gypsy King (ala what Marciano did to Walcott), and I think while AJ can outbox him for a stretch, Wilder is superior to AJ in power, stamina, and chin, and all those things will catch up to AJ in the 11th round when he is gassed out from punching himself out

 

It almost worked for David Haye though but i know it‘s supposed to be a subliminal shot

 

Yeah Tyson Fury humiliated Deontay Wilder by landing 84 punches to Wilder's 71. Landing 1 more punch per round and getting knocked down twice isn't humiliating anybody. Tyson Fury is just as unskilled and sloppy as Wilder. Fury just runs even more. Anthony Joshua is extremely slow and sloppy but just runs a little bit more.

The only people who think Wilder knocking out Breazeale proves something the same people who think Tyson Fury is something special. You are on the Tyson Fury bandwagon and you dislike Wilder.

I on the other hand don't hero worship grown men. I call it the way it is. Every real boxing fan knows how bad the heavyweight division has been ever since Lennox Lewis the likes retired. Deontay Wilder has been boxing as a pro for over 10 years and is still fighting tomato cans like Dominic Breazeale. Wilder's best win so far came against a old slow, over weight Luis Ortiz. Anthony Joshua's best wins are against a old timid Wlad in a fight he almost got stopped in and a old Alexander Povetkin. Tyson Fury's best win came against he same old Wlad but Fury only landed 86 punches in 12 rounds that bout.