Inoue is better than Loma

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Xplosive, May 18, 2019.



  1. Official Scorecard

    Official Scorecard Member Full Member

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    Inoue is one of my favorite fighters but stop posting stupid ****. First of all, I'm not telling you that because I disagree with you, but because I hate this kind of lazy posting. "period." makes 100% of your post's content. If you are claiming something, you should reason it and give us whys and hows, otherwise you're just guessing and it looks terrible even if one day it shows up you were right.
    Now talking about Loma and Inoue, I see the potential for him to be better than Loma, because he's p4p physically stronger and a harder puncher than him, so he could outshine him despite being less skilled (not by very much) than Loma. Also that's the same reason he may move up more divisions and win more titles than him. But for now he isn't better than Loma. The only real difference in his favor is his power. That's why he has the easier time winning the fights than Loma does, cause Loma isn't a one punch KO artist like him. Inoue's footwork is excellent, Loma's a bit better, same goes for their ring IQ. Their offenses are different, both great in their own, Inoue packs a bigger punch, Loma's a bit more creative, but Inoue's offense is very creative as well. His first KD of Rodriguez proved it. Loma has a better defense. He also fought a much better opposition. But Inoue has a very high ceiling as well.
     
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    Hhhahaha please stop posting stupid ****, Crawford's a very very good boxer but not on Loma's or even Inoue's skill level.

    Also Leonard is probably one of top 3 welterweights of all time, and was a very well rounded fighter, but in terms of pure skills (which I rate very high), he wasn't on Loma's, Duran's or even Floyd's level. But on the other hand, his skills COUPLED WITH his explosiveness, power, workrate, strengt, heart, chin AND RESUME, still make him if not top 3, than top 5 welterweights ever. There could be an argument he's the best 147lbs-er ever, but you should isolate all the other parameters that make a boxer great, when talking about pure skills. And all these other parameters I mentioned are the reason for Leonard rating way higher than let's say Floyd, despite Floyd having a better skillset.
     
  3. farpost

    farpost New Member Full Member

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    Why aren't we talking about speed? That is a very very big factor both for attack and defence in boxing.
    In that sense, Inoue is much superior to Loma.
     
  4. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your right there.
     
  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How can you compare Rodriguez to Kell Brook?

    Just look at their records man. Rodriguez fought 1 c level guy the rest are D level or below and had a close fight with him.

    The guy won a vacant belt against Paul Butler, lmao. These guys are nobodies.
     
  6. Paranoid Android

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    And who did Kell Brook fight before Porter? Donut Dan? Twice? And he was almost stopped by that guy whose name I can't even remember... Carson Jones!

    Adrian Gonzalez was the man at the weight. Taguchi turned out to be very good and Inoue beat him in only his fourth fight. Narvaez was an excellent KO win.

    Inoue's not a finished product, which is a scary thought.
     
  7. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    He was already in my top four, but with him steamrolling another top opponent at his weight class, I'm moving him into the top spot. Crawford is fighting top 30 guys, and Loma is fighting domestic, and Euro level guys.
     
  8. Hogified05

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    Is there any chance Inuoe can get up to 130/135 and challenge Tank/Loma? He is like 5'5 and Tank is 5'5, Loma about 5'7. Not crazy to think he could out on the weight if they are roughly the same size.

    Pac man got all the way up to jr middle weight after getting on a western diet.
     
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    i dont see where you factored in that inoue has never been dropped, never struggled, much less lost to an opponent. that would contradict your assertion that loma has better defense, or better ring iq. inoue defense is good enough to never get himself in trouble, and his iq is good enough to not create his own salido.
     
  10. Paranoid Android

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    Pacquiao is the only one to do it and it's unlikely that anyone will be ever to do it either. Inoue included.
     
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    I think he has the frame to go up to 126, not sure beyond that. Pac was a once in a life time talent, would be a big ask, plus Pac was already at 126 when he was 24 while Inoue is older and still only at 118, so Pac likely is naturally bigger.
     
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    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Pac started boxing at 14, though. Dunno if that makes a difference, but just pointing it out.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

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    That has no relevance whatsoever. Starting earlier doesn't mean you grow differently.

    24 year old Pac moved up to 126, 24 year old Inoue was fighting at 115, so at the same age Pac was naturally 11lbs heavier.
     
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    You are wrong and here's why:
    FIrst being physically stronger p4p than Loma (as I said he is, both at recieving and dishing out punishment) doesn't equal a better defense.
    Second he doesn't have to take punches in order for me to see some flaws in his defense compared to Loma. What it means is his opponents just weren't able to exploit them.
    Third he fought the lesser opponents than Loma.
    Fourth Inoue was the bigger guy in most of his fights with longer arm reach and he spends more time outside of pocket than Loma. Loma having the shorter arm reach than his opponents has to spend more time on the inside than Inoue so there are more chances of him getting hit, but despite it he still impresses me with his defense more than Inoue.
    Fifth come on, are you talking about Loma's second professional fight against an experienced, rugged, low blowing and scale cheating 147lbs weightin opponent? Ok...
     
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  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo VIP Member Full Member

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    no, actually you are wrong. loma got worked by salido, a guy mikey toyed with, because he didnt have the ring iq to seperate himself from salido level. he got dropped by linares because of his lapses in defensive responsibility, something you havent yet seen in inoue.
    i get the fanaticism associated with loma, where everything negative has a fine excuse to ignore it. linares got ridiculously overrated as soon as loma signed to fight him, and salido was too dirty for anyone to be able to deal with. fine excuses when your batting for loma, fanboy dribble when youre trying to see things honestly.
    fact is inoue is looking more impressive doing what he does, than loma in what he did.
     
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