After Wilders destruction of Breazeale

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Scissors, May 19, 2019.



Who do you now favour in a fight?

  1. Joshua

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  2. Wilder

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    35.6%
  1. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's the thing about Wilder, his unconventional style is what makes him so dangerous. You can't plan for him. Yes he is all about the right hand, but he doesn't even know when he will throw it so how can his opponent?

    He can easily get banged out against AJ but he can easily bang AJ out. It's a fascinating fight and one I hope we see atleast twice.
     
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  2. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with that like but I just think Joshua will of been planing for wilder for a long long time and he executes his game plans every time, he can’t do what fury did mainly because he hasn’t got the reach. I think Joshua has to be bold and sit on Deontay stop that leverage, that punch he hit Breazeale with wasn’t anything like the power he hit fury with Breazeale was totally planted to the spot and took it flush. People who are saying that Joshua gets hit it’s over are forgetting that the same applies for wilder. I also think that whyte is a bad move for wilder and he knows it whyte will rough him up and he won’t know how to handle it, Iam not saying he wins but it wouldn’t surprise me if he did
     
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  3. Trafford

    Trafford Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I actually agree with this. I have a feeling that Whyte is all wrong for Wilder as he will go full bull in a china shop and try to roughhouse Wilder and be so up close it will be difficult for wilder to get any torque in his punches. Joshua vs Wilder is actually more open for me.
     
  4. Jamzy ⭐

    Jamzy ⭐ Active Member Full Member

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    Weren't Team AJ the ones pushing for the fight in the first place? Let's not ignore the whole 100 million offer, now.
     
  5. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’m starting to lean towards wilder. Let’s face it, fury outpointed him but at the same time wilder was a whisker away from the KO, which is very significant, it’s not as simple as saying fury walked it. I give fury that fight but believe wilder has a very good chance in the rematch because if the success he had himself. As has been said time and again, if wilder can catch the he slippery fury why would he not be able to catch AJ? Getting caught first is obviously an issue and wilder leaves himself wide open for a counter when coming in, which is AJs chance. But if wilder lands, it could be a big problem for AJ. That power and the way wilder delivers it is a major threat regardless of his other issues.
     
  6. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    Agreed. There’s no setting traps like Joshua who’s a few moves ahead, he’s very instinctive and in the moment. I think he can read the body language of an opponent and knows exactly when to strike. I think his physical stature and wiry frame allows him to do this better than most in the heavyweight division.
     
  7. DavidJames

    DavidJames Active Member Full Member

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    Either could knock the other out -- whoever lands a bomb first wins. I have voted Wilder but its a proper 50/50
     
  8. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    I don’t know if others thought the same, but I interpreted Wilder’s words to be directed at Hearn, saying ‘Stop doing interviews offering your personal opinion on where negotiations are up to, who should be getting what split and calling Shelly ‘Shirley’ ‘

    He prefers deals to be done on the quiet like how it was done with Fury. If Hearn can keep his ego in check, perhaps it might finally get made.
     
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  9. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Always thought AJ, probably still think that (the Ortiz fight was what changed my mind a little). WIlder has one weapon and that's it. Someone like Fury can box and take that away from you (and even he couldn't do it for 12) but AJ doesn't have that style. Ortiz was doing very well but again, he's an experienced southpaw and Wilder managed to get through.

    He isn't hard to hit himself and has been rocked plenty (though is smart enough to clinch intelligently) but you've got to get there first.
     
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  10. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't care who wins, just make it happen. I can't see it lasting more than 4 rounds.

    I fancy Wilder to be honest although Joshua is the more complete package.
     
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  11. bbjc

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    Joshua will beat him. wilder is a bad opponent for him tho and in heavyweight boxing anything can happen. Anyone that's quick with size and power will be Joshua's downfall. At the same time wilders a bit too basic in other aspects of his game. I still say he's a bully type fighter. The bigger guys he fights are always slow/non punchers. The rest are smaller reached guys. He's comfortable with them. The coaches have done a good job with wilder...worked on his fast twitch reflexes and got him spoiling well but he,ll get found out when he needs to put himself in danger first. Ortiz etc all had to put themselves in the firing line first. As in he had to walk in to close the gap. All the smaller reached guys have had to. And all the longer reached guys haven't had power. As in the ones when he had to close the gap....the danger was minimum in comparison with Joshua. although we,ve not seen it from wilder yet in his career. He,ll get a lot more apprehensive against Joshua. That's when his lack of fundamental boxing skills will really show up.
     
  12. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    It's hard to pick who will knock the other one out first.
    I've picked wilder.
     
  13. Octolony shore

    Octolony shore Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I hope Joshua destroys the knob but I am less confident now than I was last year, Wilder is a one trick pony but the trick always seems to work. Everybody knows he's going to throw the right hand from a mile away but fighters just watch it land on their chin and go to sleep.
     
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  14. Twentyman

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    Thing is, I know you didn’t mean it in this context, but he does literally throw that right hand from a ridiculous distance. I don’t believe reach stats...his reach stats are apparently 83 inches, that’s well over 6 foot...but from starting point to finishing point, that right hand travels some distance before it detonates on an opponents head. Breazeale (like many others) thought he was just out of reach of that shot. That’s part of Wilder’s success...stupid long limbs.
     
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  15. Octolony shore

    Octolony shore Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He doesn't have much else apart from that massive right hand, surely someone can get out the way and nail him on the chin. Breazeale was never the man to do it but I thought he might have lasted longer than half a round, I thought he was a bit too aggressive marching forward to a puncher like Wilder.
     
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