Who is The Greatest Asian Fighter of All time???

but Sanchez wasn't able to win that fight anyways

 

I give Sanchez credit in that fight only for having the most convincing round of that fight where he did have Pacquiao on the run and was very dominant. Other than that he clearly lost that fight, even if he wasnt deducted any points he still should of lost Pacquiao clearly won atleast 3 rounds if you include the 6 which the judges had to, momentum was all Pacquiao's so I still dont see how you claim Sanchez would of won and I said nothing that Sanchez only fought dirty in this fight alone, I know hes a dirty fighter but he has never fought as dirty and early in this fight and even after being warned still was doing it in front of the ref. It was obvious the man was looking for a way out.

 

also why does everyone consider that Barrera in the first Pacquiao fight was faded?

29 years old coming off 8 straight wins, including Morales, Hamed, Kevin Kelly, and Johnny Tapia.

That's far from faded.

 

Great Point. MAB was probably one of the best around at that very time. And Pacman handed him a sweet TKO loss.
Everyone makes great points on this board and this is one of those GREAT POINTS.

 

If i recall Pharoah favourite fighter is Bute. Pretty sure if not it might be Calzaghe.

 

i actually have that guy on my ignore list

and no, I'm not a Pac nuthugger, just a fan. Actually i do not think that Pac is the greatest Asian fighter ever, since i don't know much about Asian fighter.

When he retires, we will see how history reflects on his career. I think it will reflect very positively. People pay alot of attention to the "0" on the record when a fighter is active, but then in retirement the focus is more on big wins. Demolishing Barrera once and beating him easily a second time, Morales twice (even though they were shot the second time), and edging out Marquez, those are some great wins.

 

Yeah.

He's got this "hate" with anybody who even just kinda likes Pac.

I dont get it.

I dont think Manny's the greatest just yet. I need to wait until he finishes his career.

 

Sasakul beat a past his prime version of Arbachakov, which is why he was not elevated to the p4p rankings when he did beat him. The last time Arbachakov showed anything near prime form he beat Sasakul. It was a close fight though. I had Arbachakov taking it by a point myself.

In any case though I think Johnson was a better fighter than Arbachakov. If he and Pac fought I see Pac getting badly schooled and it would likely be Pac that gets knocked out, not Johnson. Pac was getting easily schooled by Sasakul before he landed a tide turning punch which ended it. I think the schooling would be even worse by Johhson, and with his better punching power he likely knocks Pac out. Even if he doesn't I think Johnson had a better chin than Sasakul and would have withstood anything a green Pac had to offer.

Please don't bother replying with anything that references Too Sharp after he got out of prison. I'm talking prime Too Sharp.

 

Can't believe this thread is still going, it appears there are a few more PacDBest's pretenders up in here.

 

5 agree with your views on the pac jmm fights, he lost both. if the decisions were correct in those fights this thread wouldent even be discussed.

 

If the decision was correct pac should have also won the first fight... that idiot judge made an error.

 

another excuse of past prime atsch

first fight was so close... and the second fight happened in a span of two years. arbachakov defended his title two times after their first fight getting a ud over juarez and tko'ing tokuchi then they met again. Moreover, prior to their first fight, he defended it 6 times.
Defending it 9 times and tkoing/koing your opponents is not a good excuse for past prime. and in fact the guy only fought 24 fights in his professional career. in addition, their fight was held in japan where arbachakov is their honorary citizen of russian decent.

sasakul is the man at that weight. pac whooped that man. get over it :good

 

Did you ever bother scritinize the whole RESUME of Fighting Harada compared to the whole RESUME of pac

- only a fraction of Harada's fight was made outside Japan. Bulk of his opponnents are from JAPAN only. If i COUNTED in corretly Fighting HARADA fought about five or less Non JAPANESE fighters
- while bulk of Pac's wins are based on INTERNATIONAL boxers NOT only boxers from the Philippines

He had seven losses. while pac has only a few.

I may agree that Harada could be the greatest japanese boxer but calling him the greatest ASIAN boxer?! Hard to agree.

 

I'm sorry to sound biased but it sounds like the poster shouldve made it a Japanese appreciation thread instead of ASIAN..are their any other asian fighters that have risen to the level of Pacquiao? If there is I have some research to do......have any of them beaten 3 legends a total of 7 times?

 

atsch You really are desperate and need to find some new material. The fight was close. Even die hard fans have learned to accept the fact that the first fight was scored a draw (even before Pac won 2nd time) despite thinking Pac won and the judges admitting to his error in scoring.

There are only a handful of people here who cant move on about the score, a poll was made and about 80% of ESB'ers thought they could see how the fight could have been scored for Pac. There were 3 close rounds that could be scored for either fighter, and would sway the decision. Yours and my opinion are irrelevant in who to give those close rounds to, that comes down to the judges and they gave it to Pac.

You bring up his losses about 10 years ago? lol, you really are desperate. This is equivalent to me bringing up Bernard Hopkins first loss. Pac's losses came about 10years ago, when he was still developing as a fighter on the go and a teenager. Unlike some protected fighters like Chavez Jnr who can "learn on the go" but at the same time throw in handpicked opponents at him to learn on. Pac fought the best whilst still learning the game...and its very well documented fact that he was absolutely weight drained in one of his first losses, hence the 2 weight division jump. Of course you know this and your ignorance choose to ignore it.

Pac's most recent loss came against Morales...and we give Morales props for that. Then again, Morales is an ATG and we never penalized ATG's for loosing to other ATG's in the past. SRR lost to Lamotta, Ali to Frazier...whats your point? Pac came back and blew Morales out of there. On top of that, like I said, Pac has up'd his game since the Morales fight too. He didnt have the luxury of having a world class traininer and management in his corner from when he was a child. Unlike guys like JMM who had legendary trainer Berestein since he was 6!