Just watched Pavlik-Bedburbick

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  1. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    It's a 4-rounder at junior middleweight and very early in Kelly's career.
    Pavlik goes almost down in the 2 nd round,but the ropes hold him up....he receives a standing 8 -count... he is visibly hurt and goes on his bicycle for the remainder of the round.Bedburbick has a huge stamina problem and comes out for the 3d literally spend.The ref intervenes after a barrage of punches in the 3d,Bedburbick is still standing.
    Pavlik proves here again he can be hurt but not counted out,Taylor,Zuniga and now Bedburbick.That's the 3d time i see him visibly shaken and come back to knock the other guy out.
    How do you rate his chin?
     
  2. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Pavlik will lose a few times in the coming years presuming he faces the Abrahams, Kesslers, Butes, of this world.

    His chin isn't great. Not bad, but not great.
     
  3. TFFP

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    His chin is good, but not granite as his fans seem to think.
     
  4. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    From scale of 1-10, i would say maybe an 8. The thing about Pavlik is that he's always putting his chin out there because he's always coming forward and throwing so he's more prone to get hit with clean shots when compared to a guy like Cory Spinks. :lol: Pavlik is willing to take some shots to get in his.
     
  5. TFFP

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    It's hardly an 8, when you've been rocked a couple of times by C levels and once by a champion who isn't known for his explosive power

    I mean 8 out of 10 would be a very solid chin, only hurt by top level punchers and fighters
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    he has a great chin. He can definately take a good shot. His balance is not very good though.

    I didn't see the knockdown you're talking about, but he took both the Zuniga and Taylor shots extremely well. Went down but wasn't really hurt.

    Kind of like Calzaghe

    The thing with Pavlik is that he will take a huge shot sometimes and lose his balance but he always remains clear-headed, which imo is a sign of an extremely solid chin


    He was up by 1 or 2 in both the Zuniga and Taylor knockdowns. Actually he seemed in control of his senses even as he was falling to the canvas.

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  7. AlbertaFightFan

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    While he does go down, his recuperative powers are pretty darn amazing.
     
  8. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was pretty darn hurt with Taylor. He was out on his feet for a little bit. Then he recuperated.
     
  9. PH|LLA

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    he was stumbling around when he tried to clinch after for sure and thats because Taylor hit him with another punch while coming in. Mentally he looked in control of his senses. I mean look at his expression when he goes down and when Smoger is giving him the standing 8 count, very clear headed and strong on his feet.

    IMO this guy can take a punch. Like i said its more his balance that is a problem

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    and btw i think Kessler would beat Pavlik, but Pavlik's chin is rock solid
     
  10. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    I saw this fight last week. Real early in his career being only 18.

    But to be fair, that left hand caught him on the temple and he never saw it coming.
     
  11. teemo16

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    where can we see this fight? thanks
     
  12. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    great post even If I don,t agree that Kessler beat Pavlik, it's very debatable!
     
  13. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    sorry i just downladed it from a torrent website
     
  14. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    flash knockdowns mean nothing bar losing a round by 2 points.

    as long as fighters get straight up /legs under them , nothing wrong with there chins.

    i saw pavlik walk onto a huge miranda right hand , which he never saw coming and while he was a little wobbled he shook it off and 3 secs later came back firing .

    all earlier fights when you are maturing are just learning fights.
    does not really matter what happened as long as you learn and improve.

    25 years ago hardly a fighter never had a loss before getting a world title shot.

    25 years later virtuially all prospects are undefeated before getting there title shots.

    tells you a lot about over cautious matchmaking then and now.
     
  15. GT BOX

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    I think Pavlik does have a good Chin. The real problem is that he has non existant head movement which means he doesent avoid and slip shots as perhaps he could . I do Think he does take a good shot .Getting hurt is part of Boxing .Remember Oscar dela hoya getting decked early in his career on a few occasions as a super feather /lightweight yet Oscars chin later held up quite well at least three divisions higher true different style to PAV but still same with Trinidad as well .