Ruiz has just exploded the myth of the superheavyweight

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  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    In boxing, when we say bigger, we usually mean heavier.

    Thus, we say that Mike Tyson was bigger than Tommy Hearns, even though he was a bit shorter.

    And Povetkin IS a bigger man than Callum Smith, even though he too is the shorter man.

    The sport has WEIGHT classes, not Height Classes.
     
  2. Jambon

    Jambon Active Member Full Member

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    Well i still would not recommend being a little fatso. All the wave it makes when he receives a punch can't be helpfull on the scorecards. He blind jusges have to see the shockwaves.
     
  3. iamtheman

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    Either their opponents let them because their game plan is all wrong or they're just point blank less skilled and/or genetically ill equipped to deal with the size attributes. On the other hand the big men might use their own attributes in all the wrong ways and get beat. or suck skill wise and be exposed. these are all possibilities. but my point is basically this; a good big man will more often than not beat a good small man. it's just an average likelihood scenario when you get to the very top where the best, both small and big, usually are skilled and are using their attributes well and do have good coaches and gameplans but that one (or more) genetic advantages related to size could be the difference maker in either dominating or just eking out a win.

    more power to the smaller men of the division though. i personally think Usyk will make some of these SHW look like fools.
     
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  4. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    nah, not at all.
     
  5. cuchulain

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  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Well to put things into perspective, Usyk would not achieve what Ruiz Jr achieved.

    So maybe we need to revisit the type of "smaller" fighter we THINK would beat a skilled superheavy.
     
  7. thesmokingm

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  8. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is a little pedantic tbh, I meant a combination of the two and no doubt Joshua was the bigger man regardless of weight.
     
  9. cuchulain

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    The OP said



    Wilder is regarded as one of the so-called super heavyweights and his average weight over his last four outings was 218 lbs.
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Your point is? This thread should have included or been about Wilder? Maybe OP can make one when Wilder takes the belts?
     
  11. cuchulain

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    Not entirely.

    Not unless you want to term Callum Smith as being bigger than Lamon Brewster.

    And if you require both HEIGHT and WEIGHT, as you stated, then Wilder wouldn't qualify as a superheavy.
     
  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    The points are...


    1) Bigger means heavierier, not taller.

    2) The OP's definition of SUPERHEAVY would exclude Wilder, and most regard Wilder as one of the superheavies.
     
  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Huh, no that's you being a **** contrarian arguing for the sake of arguing itself.
     
  14. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    So you want to refute the points made ?

    Or just name call ?
     
  15. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    WTF are you yapping about? You just made up your own criteria in someone else's thread.