Anthony Joshua Was always An Instagram Paper Champion

Listen you were the one who brought up his resume. I merely pointed out that it isn’t that good.

 

AJ status is mainly gained by his fans belittling other champs. Even now after his defeat to the hands of Michelin man, the reflex of many is to keep belittling opposition or make up conspiracy theories. Reality is to hard to face, he is not the second coming of Thor. Other are now so broken they call him a bum. Wlad got knocked out, Lewis and Tyson also did. Vitali quitted on his stool. Its heavyweight boxing, dont be the fans that by so much into the hype that you have to behave that way.

 

I brought up resume to the op as that was the topic of discussion i.e insta champ, any resume isn't that good if you look hard enough. This is a debate I've had many times on boxing forms over the years, to prove the point pick any heavyweight from history and I'll show how easy it is to discredit their resume.

 

How is a man exposed as a fraud by taking a loss in a boxing ring? I would say that it happens if his record has been puffed up weak opposition. Joshua has fought Whyte, Klitschko, Parker, Takam and Povetkin. He won those fights. I'd say that he is outside the remit of being declared a fraud by the virtue of a single loss.

You know what's wrong with you, Sephiroth? You're a cretin. You let your emotions rule your actions. You have no control over the chemicals swishing around in your brain. You're so invested in hating Anthony Joshua that you can't be reasonable and understand a single loss for what it is - a single loss where a confluence of circumstances led to a defeat. The same thing happened to Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Leonard, Hagler, Robinson, etc, etc, etc.

People like you are the reason that boxing has become so safe and pedestrian the last twenty years. You really ought to just be quiet and keep your opinions, such as they are, to yourself. Nobody gains anything from their sharing.

 

None of this is true, when did he duck Ortiz? When did he duck Whyte? Both declined to fight him. And which fighters other than those you mention should he have fought?

 

Now we have to deal with guys telling us Ruiz would KO Wilder only because he will have a life and death trilogy with Joshua, whereby we all know very well that the bronze Bomber doesn‘t enjoy shedding the blood of obese athletes of this world and will rather make it a quick fight without too much pain endured.

 

Ironically in the RBR thread that poster wrote he's not even much of a Joshua fan. Lmao.

 

Some of you guys are really toxic to the forum

 

Haha. All of the fighters I listed were good enough to be in contention for a belt. Takam is a fringe name on the list but he's a solid fighter with a long career and a history of actually trying to win, unlike another name on Joshua's resume, Kevin Johnson. Whyte is included because of what he has become. Klitschko, Parker and Povetkin are there because of what they had previously achieved. Povetkin gave Joshua a good fight, as did Klitschko. They were past prime, but that is the lot of many a new champion - he beats out the old lions to stake out his territory.

I have never depicted Joshua as an "unstoppable force". The notion is laughable. He's a not particularly special fighter in a period that isn't particularly special. He's limited in punch selection, he's limited in tactics, he's limited in his approach to a fight. I certainly haven't said that Joshua would beat Wilder or Fury. I think Wilder levels him more brutally than Ruiz. With Fury, given the fight would take place in the UK, I think it would be a toss-up between the two as to who would emerge the official victor. I think Fury would "win", but I am not so certain that he would come away with a W on his record.

Joshua is too limited to be the number one in this era or any other. He's augmented by a hype machine that cares for nothing but raw coin. People thought it would take a Wilder or Fury to relieve Joshua of his belts, but it actually took nought more than a fringe contender.

 

Face it gents, AJ got his unprepared butt kicked and embarrassed tonight. Hearn got his head crooked because Hearn is only about the business of boxing and not the sport of boxing. Now he done blew a one or two hundred million dollar fight. I am no longer interested in the Wilder fight because he was so totally beaten by Ruiz. I would rather see Ruiz and Wilder.

 

I'm not a Joshua fan. I don't think he's a terrible boxer or a lousy champion. He has beaten the people put in front of him. That's the least you can ask of any fighter.

The difference between your way of thinking and mine is that you thought Joshua was garbage before he lost and despite the fact that he hadn't fought any of the other, in your mind, serious contenders (i.e. Fury / Wilder). I thought he was yet to be seriously tested by someone who wasn't past prime. The same question marks still hang over Wilder and, to a lesser extent, Fury.

 

You say this and that and that yet you keep defending AJ when htere's nothing to defend lol.