Anthony Joshua - 2016 to 2019 - now that his reign has ended, where does he stand all time?

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  1. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    I would agree that Joshua belongs in their company.

    But not at the apex of the sport where the ATG lineal champs reside.
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't regard Sam Langford as an ATG? What the **** is wrong with you? Joshua is no where near his company.
     
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  3. Pretty Boy Floyd

    Pretty Boy Floyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Waiting for the rematch to decide weather or not hes the ronda rousey of boxing.
     
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  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He could. If this is his only reign, middling is probably right.

    Suffering five knockdowns in seven defenses is pretty worrisome. Once a guy starts getting knocked around like that, it doesn't usually get better.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Read about him. He's a top 5 pfp fighter ever with over 100kos at HW, and he moved up from LW

    I actually agree Joshua is a good ABC champ, but I'd comfortably have him over a fair few Lineal champs
     
    George Crowcroft, Jun 2, 2019
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  6. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    kriszhao, Jun 2, 2019
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  7. Emerald Oracle

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    In a nutshell, the most accurate summary of his career. Joshua is a good boxer, but nowhere near great and was a bogus world champion backed by clever marketing, protected against any legit opponent on top of their game. Last night we saw what happened when he went in with someone who wasn't washed up.
     
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  8. andrewa1

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    Lineal is undisputed or the man who beat the man. Wlad was never undisputed and never beat Lewis. For most of his reign, he was functionally the #2 in the division to his brother.
     
    andrewa1, Jun 2, 2019
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  9. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That's a wrongheaded hot take. AJs 6 successful defenses are a good quality in terms of historic comp. Better than the Chagaevs and Valuevs and Hayes who still weren't able to have nearly as many defenses as he did.
     
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  10. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excellent analysis regarding the mental drain. So much fame and fandom so early now in his career. That’s got to be exhausting especially when you haven’t truly tested yourself
     
    GK BOX, Jun 2, 2019
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  11. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Vitali was a clear top 15 ATG HW and has an inarguably better resume than many "lineal" HW ATGs. I'd be glad to do a deep dive on his resume vs Liston or Bowe or Patterson etc
     
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  12. The Long Count

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    It’s much better than Wilder’s run that is undeniable where it ranks I don’t know
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

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    Wins over WladKlit, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, and Martin.

    He has a place in history regardless of what happens next.
     
    catchwtboxing, Jun 2, 2019
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  14. kirk

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    The amount of people confusing his reign, with his career, is pretty incredible.
     
    kirk, Jun 2, 2019
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  15. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cant really comment on his reign or career because his career is far from over. AJ could win the rematch and go on to unify the division.
     
    Mitch87, Jun 2, 2019
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