Wilder and fans, just please stop

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  1. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    There's no credible source in either of your links, just rumors and hearsay. Did you even read them?
    Again when you see official purses for Wilder-Breazeale get announced let me know.
     
  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well I guess AJ never got paid for last night because there’s no official report from the commission (they don’t release that in New York, btw).

    You’re telling me that Sports Illustrated doesn’t have sources? That Wilder’s local paper doesn’t?

    OK, whatever you say. He’s fighting for free. They all are.
     
  3. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I find it hard to believe that Wilder made 20 million for Breazale but you never know, after Fury schooled him the fight generated a lot of interest. I know for sure before the Fury fight Wilder couldn’t really draw flies to arena’s or to watch on tv. He couldn’t sell out high school gymnasiums in his home town. But Fury did put him on the map some what, I mean he has to be making something because if he wasn’t it would be foolish to turn down the offer he received from DAZN.
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    DAZN and Fury’s deal with ESPN+ set the market. They had to match to keep Wilder from taking offers from one or the other and keep him a free agent.

    In no way was the fight profitable at that price, but neither is Fury’s next fight nor was AJ-Ruiz. Nor Canelo for DAZN — everyone is trying to hold onto a market share (whether it’s AJ or Wilder or Fury) for the truly big-money showdowns that are coming.

    Mayweather’s fights weren’t all profitable but keeping him on the roster and taking those losses paid off because of the humongous money generated by his fights with Pac and McGregor. Sometimes you take a loss to make a bigger profit later.
     
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  5. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would agree with all of that. I think that’s a large reason this 3 headed monster (now 4 headed with Ruiz) is good for business and the fights the people want are being dragged out for optimal money. I hate the business model in terms of fighters legacies but I don’t hate on anyone making the most money they can get as long as the fight itself is on the up and up.
     
  6. flem1

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    ******* also mentioned that Wilder got around 20 mil.
     
  7. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You wont find anything online with Wilder receiving $20 million. Theres a lot saying he got around $10 million but nothing saying Showtime/Haymon got him $20 million. On youtube, theres a few videos saying he got $10 million, I couldn't find one saying and proving he got $20 million.

    Our only source for the $20 million is our very own Saintpat who says they don't publicise what Deontay got but yet Saintpat says he got $20 million. You'd think Showtime would like to show the DAZN that they can match their offers. In Australasia, Wilder vs Breazeale was free to watch, it wasn't PPV so of course it's not going to make as much money. Then you had 13k in attendance at the Barclays for a fight that everyone knew Wilder would win.

    So much there to suggest Wilder wouldn't have made $20 million for the Brezeale fight but if someone can share some actual proof and not just their say so, then that'll be great.
     
  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I posted two links above and it’s on the twitter of the reporter who has covered him for his hometown paper. So yes, you will if you know how to click a link or check twitter.
     
  9. Rockradar

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    Have you red your link? they're not credible sources. Another poster said the same thing. Read your link, there is no 'Wilder received $20 million for the Breazeale fight'. Theres nothing on twitter. Try googling 'Wilder got $20 million for the Breazeale fight' and you'll only get 'Wilder got $10 million'.

    Like you said - Wilder doesnt say what he got. Remember? but somehow you're the only source saying Wilder received $20 million.
     
  10. Saintpat

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    How is Sports Illustrated not credible? They’ve been the top sports magazine in American for decades. They were covering boxing since the 1950s.

    And it’s right there in their story. And in the other one. And on the reporter’s twitter.

    Even the British publications have it at 9.5M pounds, which is $12M, and they cite no source.

    You believe whatever you choose but don’t act like it’s not there.
     
  11. Rockradar

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    "Coppinger said that Wilder’s $12.5 million purse would have pushed the fight out of Showtime’s budget and it’s believed that the heavyweight champion was able to parlay the DAZN meeting into a bigger payday (in the neighborhood of the $20 million offered by John Skipper & Co.), so it’s certainly worth wondering how the fight landed on premium cable. Considering Showtime had NEVER paid out a licensing fee even close to that figure for a live fight airing on the cable network, even if the company is paying a record fee there remains a $10 million to $15 million shortfall."
    Recognise the source?
    https://johnwallstreet.com/showtime-broadcasting-wilder-breazeale/
     
  12. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They said 'reported' but never gave any sources. For example, had it said - 'according to the DAZN, Deontay Wilder made $20 million with Showtime for the Breazeale fight', now that would be a solid source.
     
  13. Saintpat

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    They reported it. Which means they believe the source.

    I can’t find anywhere with a source that says $10M where they say where it came from ... yet you choose to believe that.
     
  14. Rockradar

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    Yeah but who was their source? some articles state that like I mentioned before.
    Remember how I was the first one to provide a source? you seem to forget a bit, thats twice now. Here it is again for you.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/deontay-wilder-vs-dominic-breazeale-16167890

    "Deontay Wilder will pick up almost $10million for his heavyweight world title fight against Dominic Breazeale." - The Mirror
     
  15. Saintpat

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    The publication is not the source. It is the place that reported the information, just as The Tuscaloosa News and Sports Illustrated and that WallStreet guy ... it doesn’t not say “according to DAZN” or “according to Showtime,” etc. It cites no source.