Yes Ruiz is fat. We should embrace it, it's part of his brand

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  1. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    I despise Hopkins, but yeah...this.
     
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  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    you saying we gotta roll with it? If that cap fats,wear it.
     
  3. Okin129

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    Lol calm down keyboard warrior, I don‘t really think he is morbidly obese, it was an over the top comment like about 80% of all comments made on this forum.

    And you‘re dead wrong, he is not in better shape than i am, i‘m in amazing shape 6‘2 and 200 pounds with low body fat and great proportions and muscle insertions, i won the genetic lottery, i‘m telling you because you seem very interested in how i look like.

    But i have to admit that Ruiz would beat the **** out of me, no problem lol.
     
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  4. The Townsend

    The Townsend Zeus. Full Member

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    He's a stocky, hard, tough, strong fighter. The key word here is fighter. AJ is an athlete who could compete in many sports. Fighters are special and rare in the division these days.

    Tyson, Ali, Foreman, Shavers, Louis, Rocky just to name a few were all fighters. They are a dying breed of elite genetics. Ruiz has a serious engine which drove his 268lb body forward which dismantled AJ in 7 rounds. You don't acquire an engine like that from having a six pack and 20 inch arms. That is called genes. We are all built differently. Fortunately for Ruiz Jr he chose the right sport from a young age.
     
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  5. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As I've stated soo many times, in the heavyweight division (when a boxer is allowed to outweigh their opponents by potentially an unlimited amount), having more weight is an advantage. And it's not just a case of simply being heavy, but being trained and conditioned + heavy. It's a combination of those things that make a heavier heavyweight more dangerous. A conditioned and a trained heavyweight who is heavier would have an advantage over a smaller heavyweight. It's really that simple!

    This rule doesn't apply to other weight divisions where boxers are forced to weight the same, relatively speaking. But the heavyweight division is totally different, almost to the point where it's a different sport altogether. The same is the case with MMA heavyweight as you just rightly mentioned Fedor Emelianenko as a clear example.

    It really doesn't matter if the weight comes in the form of fat or muscles. It's the heavyweight division and not the 'muscle division'. A trained and a conditioned heavy guy is at a greater advantage than a lighter guy who is also trained and conditioned (or not) in the heavyweight division.
     
  6. tylerdurden

    tylerdurden It's OK to have beliefs, just don't believe them Full Member

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    As a formerly obese person, there are some pretty weird things that happen to your body that are irreversible.
    The main one is "stretched skin"
    You have these massive folds, especially around the waist, that look like you are carrying loads of flab, but underneath there is muscle.
    I don't believe Andy is in as poor condition as he looks.
    After seeing him live go life-and-death with a super-fit Parker, I believe in the folded skin!
    The folded skin is also handy for absorbing shots.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He's fat but when he takes the S from his Snickers he becomes fast
     
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  8. tylerdurden

    tylerdurden It's OK to have beliefs, just don't believe them Full Member

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    Fast and loose - like Russian people no?
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The Russian Andy Ruiz Jr. aka Sergey Kuzmin's hair has been receding fast and like Ruiz he has loose flesh
     
  10. enqwert

    enqwert New Member Full Member

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    He needs to lose some weight, it is as clear as day. Some people say he is fast, he is not. He has fast hands, but he doesn't move fast.
     
  11. Zhuge Liang

    Zhuge Liang Active Member Full Member

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    Who cares he is obese or not. I have seen way too many times, fat guys taking out men with six pack abs and nice shape of muscles. As long as you make the weight, you are fit to fight.
     
  12. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    The fatter players die younger than the slimmer players. So there is an obvious correlation. There is no such thing as healthy obese.

    Ruiz is NOT healthy. Good fighter for sure, but he is not healthy.
     
  13. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Hes healthy enough to win the heavyweight title. get over it. By medical terms hes not considered obese. go educate yourself.
     
  14. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well then ill stick to this being my main point lol!
     
  15. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    There is no point in discussing this with you if you use strawman arguments.