Wilder vs Fury 2

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  1. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Hopefully they push this back and Wilder fights Ruiz after Ortiz (assuming he beats Ortiz), making the rematch for the Ring Magazine and Undisputed HW title, it would make this a huge fight if that were to happen.
     
  2. kirk

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    Ill be rooting for Wilder but I have to pick Fury.

    Wilder will likely come in heavier, which against anyone else in the division might be a good thing, but against Fury I think it might cost him that slight bit of speed and explosiveness that will make him less likely to catch Fury with a fight ender.

    I expect Fury to open up a bit more and do a bit more in rounds to try and get the decision.

    Will be taking Fury by decision or possibly late stoppage.

    Hope Im wrong. All it takes is one punch, and if a heavier Wilder is indeed able to still land a proper bomb, the extra weight might make a difference.
     
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  3. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shpilka is also the better boxer. He wont do better in the rematch.
     
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  4. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Ortiz rematch will be a fairly good gauge of how much Wilders extra weight has edified his punching power, or not. People forget Wilder was frigging 209 lbs for that first Fury fight which for a guy of 6'7 is crazy.

    As it stands, I see it being similar to the first in that he gets caught late only Fury not getting up.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder weighed less for the first Fury fight than any bout except his pro debut. Wilder was emaciated. And he said he lost weight after the weigh in.

    People go on and on about Fury's conditioning, but the first fight with Wilder was one of the best performances of Fury's career. And it'll go down in history as one of the best performances Fury every delivered in the ring.

    Fury was in better shape for the first Wilder fight than he was for Hammer or either Chisora fight. He'd been in camp for nearly an entire year. And Fury was very sharp when he stepped in the ring for the WBC title.

    Wilder was arguably the weakest he'd been for any fight since his debut, and he still had Fury on the deck twice. Wilder is a more ferocious puncher when he weighs in the 220s. He'll weigh in the high 220s for Ortiz and Fury.

    Wilder's about to face two guys who he's already had down five times in total. He's going to come in heavier and stronger in their rematches and just walk thru both.
     
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  6. Max Thunder

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    Wilder looked slower against Breazeale but still as vulnerable as ever. Fury KOs him in the rematch.
     
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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Funniest post of the day.

    Wilder looked slow and vulnerable? (LOL) The one-two that ended the fight landed in a fraction of a second.

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  8. BCS8

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    I say Fury stops him late this time.

    My reasons:

    1) I believe Fury is going to be in much better condition, sharper and carrying more snap. I expected fat camp fury to lose to Wilder. The fact that he still out-skilled him by such a large margin leads me to be very confident in the rematch.
    2) Wilder seems to be going in the AJ direction and bulking up with muscles. I don't believe that this will make him any harder hitting than he already is, and in fact I think its going to cause him to gas faster. Wilder should be concentrating on footwork and technique, instead of pushing weights. He already has the power, what he needs is an effective delivery system.

    I think the first couple of rounds will be hairy for Fury, but, assuming he comes out of them OK - and I think he will - his constant counterpunching is going to wear out Wilder by the late rounds and I think he stops him.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    I could have just Liked this post and saved myself some typing.
     
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  10. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Wilder will beat him, more convincingly than last time tbh.
     
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  11. snake33

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    Fury had just lost a lot of weight and wasn't 100% the first fight and yet he was sure he could beat Wilder, which he did.
    This time Fury will know he can't ease up for a second and he'll be in better shape. I think he'll dance him around for 12 rounds and get a UD.
     
  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder has an effective delivery system. He's knocked out everyone he's faced as a pro except for Fury, who he had on the floor twice.

    There was a 44-pound weight difference between them in fight one. If the weight difference is, say, 20 pounds next time (Fury a little lighter, Wilder 16 pounds heavier), Fury doesn't make it.

    Fury did just about everything right in fight one, and he was still nearly decapitated at the end.

    Wilder can do a whole lot better (he already has), I don't think Fury can.
     
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  13. Dubblechin

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    Wilder clearly wasn't 100 percent, either. And now Wilder also knows what he has to do to drop Fury, since he did it twice. So he'll get right on it.
     
  14. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    I see a more desperate Wilder taking more chances to avoid being made to look foolish for most of the first fight. I think he guns for the KO. Fury will be ready for that, and play it a bit safer landing counterpunches between wild looping Wilder combos. I think later in the fight Fury steps it up, and Wilder grows weary from early aggression.
    Fury wins for me via late rounds TKO stoppage from the corner or ref.
    Then Wilder immediately claims it was a poor stoppage, and will want a third fight, which Fury will definitely not take and try to get Ruiz/AJ to take a unification fight.
     
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  15. BCS8

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    This sort of thinking is exactly why Wilder is going to lose. He didn't get clowned because Fury had 40lb of extra fat on him. He lost because Fury was too skilled. Wilder thinks exactly like you and he's hitting the weights to become a better boxer. It's not going to work. If mass was all it took to be great then Valuev would be the ATG GOAT.