Would the average boxer today win a round v the best boxer 50 years ago?

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  1. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    'Back in the good ol days these veterans were able to take apart 10 men at once, these newer bums would have no match for such great men. How dare you suggest the new fighters would win? They don't deserve to lace their boots!'

    Says too many on this forum.

    These new generation of fighters ARE better than the older generations on average. Why? Because they've learnt from the previous generations, and added little bits here and little bits there. They have better fitness too. Technology plays a part though and we'd never know how those older fighters would have fared.

    We can say Ali would have beaten Anthony Joshua, but AJ will have studied Ali (And many others), and there is no doubt that through current techniques, he is fitter. So let's not come to conclusions because it isn't as simple as it seems.

    Take a look at 100m running. Look at those times. They have improved significantly over the years, enough to suggest that the newer generations are better. Now, it doesn't matter what decade Usain Bolt took part in, because he's just built for the job genetically. But what about one of the other top runners? Those that are doing 9.6s, or 9.7s (Or into the 10's for women). You can't argue with the numbers. He/she IS faster than those from 20-30 years ago (Bar that amazing woman who I can't remember the name of who still holds the record).

    And you have to take into account drug-testing too. You don't know what those people were on. And I'm not saying that drug-testing is in a great place right now. It certainly isn't. But it's far far better than it was 30 years ago, that's for sure.
     
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  2. HerolGee

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    irony doest carry well on forums
     
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  3. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can we pack PEDs into the time machine?

    Then we easily bring one of our one of our 21st century solid prospects to spark Jose Napoles silly
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    they've spoke to the previous generations? ouji board?


    no they fight fewer rounds. they require less fitness, as a matter of absolute certain undeniable and blatantly obviousl cast iron fact.




    joshua hasnt yet even studied ruiz technique.



    there isnt.


    So let's not come to conclusions because it isn't as simple as it seems.

    or not, unless you count sprinting away from your opponent a boxing skill.



    what were you on to write all tha gibberish
     
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  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    but ruiz is yeh?
     
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  6. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bob Foster was a Futuristic PrEying Mantis, lethal at 175 any era.

    In modern times with the help of PEDs & better weigh-in breaks, he will be preparing for his 33rd consecutive defense at 160.

    Foster naysayers focus on his chicken legs & are waiting for super tough Avtandil Khurtsidze to come out of prison and expose Bob Foster.... Bob Arum sees the big $ potential & hires a massive team to prove that the tough Georgian is not Rican
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Ruiz is far faster than Mathis and more powerful, with a better chin, no comparison at all.
     
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  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    no, in terms of speed they are both similar. It is skill which separates them.
     
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  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wrong Ruiz puts combos like a Welter volume puncher, no heavyweight is confident enough to do what Ruiz does. If Chris Byrd or any fast Big guy tried that $hit, they will get KTFO

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  10. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Average boxer cannot but Mike Tyson can knock out anybody who was the best boxer 50 years ago.
     
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  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    maybe chin, thats all.
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    does he hell, he flails like the fat chump he is.
     
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  14. Blandman

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    The population to draw from is much larger today than 50 years ago, literally billions of people larger. Training methods and nutrition are much more advanced as are medical procedures treating injuries that may have been career ending a few years back.

    On the other hand, there are more people participating in other sports, boxing is far less popular today and life is easier for many more people than 50 years ago. The population may have grown but, I’m not sure the potential pool for boxers has.

    A lot of this depends on the rules, 12 or 15 rounds, ped’s or no ped’s, weigh in 2 days before the fight or one, etc...Similar to the question of who wins, the lion or the tiger, it depends mostly on the size of the arena and the terrain...the rules matter.

    One interesting piece of actual real, non-theoretical evidence offers some help; George Foreman. His pro career started 50 years ago. And after his championship run, he took 10 years off before lacing up the gloves again. 10 years away is an insane amount of time away for any sport, and as one would expect he was far from the fighter he was previously. The shell of Foreman kicked some serious a...for over a decade that bridged to our modern era. Personally, I don’t see any of the modern HW’s being able to handle young Foreman’s telephone pole jab.

    My guess is that the boxers that were special 50 years ago would just as special today.
     
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  15. 3rdegree

    3rdegree Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    There is only one way to find out. Dust off your copy of Fight Night and I'll see you online.:cool:
     
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