Is Gennadiy Golovkin SHOT...???

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Is Gennadiy Golovkin SHOT...???

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  1. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    This is G Baby! He is sand bagging! Canelo will take a look at G and say, make the fight big daddy Hoya.
     
  2. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yup. And their in lies the trick. Can you avoid getting ko`d? Canelo has shown he can and I think he wins the third fight decisively.
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    GGG was younger than Floyd was when he fought Canelo, and many people say Floyd dominated Canelo at 36. Now granted Canelo has improved since the Floyd fight but the fact is no one was making excuses about how Floyd was too old to beat Canelo, how he was passed his prime. If Floyd could put on the kind of performance he put on vs Canelo at 36 why couldnt GGG ? And yes, Canelo improved since then, I get that, but it still doesn't change the age that both GGG and Floyd were when they each fought Canelo. Age wasn't used as an excuse for Floyd but was for GGG, yet they were the same age. (G was actually younger with a shorter pro career than Floyd)
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Way more fighters die in pro fights than amateur fights and sparring combined.

    Yeah, you sparr in these low level gyms and you may get stupid sparring and people may get hurt..

    GGG is an olympian, he has been in quality gyms most of his life. He may have wear and tear no doubt, but to call him shot is ridiculous. Lol

    My point is simple. He's still competing at a high level because he has fought very few pro rounds compared to most fighters his age, and has had relatively low level opposition that did not take out much of Golovkin.
     
  5. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Floyd fought a DRAINED, GREEN, and CLEAN Canelo.
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Drained? Yes. Clean? Yes. Green? Debtable, he was coming off a big win over Austin Trout. He didn't look green vs Trout now did he? Yes he was thrown into the deep end of the pool vs Floyd, without his promoter DLH who was supposedly in rehab during fight week. (I'm guessing largely from trying to co-promote an event with Floyd and TMT)

    Floyd certainly beat Canelo more convincingly than GGG did, and of course a better version of Canelo fought GGG, but the point that both fighters were about the same age when they fought Canelo is a valid one. It was certainly an easier fight for Floyd for the reasons given (catchweight, less experience, etc) but still age wasn't used as an excuse for Floyd like it was for GGG despite them being the same age. (GGG was actually a year younger than Floyd when he first fought Canelo) So again regardless of how much better Canelo was when he fought GGG, still Floyd did not look on the decline at 36 when he fought Canelo. Age wasn't used as an excuse for Floyd going into fighting Canelo but yet it was for GGG despite being about the same age.
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's all being used as an excuse to discredit what Canelo did to him. At the same time as using age as an excuse, they also claim he was robbed. GGG fans talked all this **** about how he would destroy Canelo if they ever fought. When they get proven wrong in the ring twice they find any excuse they can come up with to justify what happened. I'm not saying there isn't any truth to GGG being on the decline, but it's still a weak argument to use it as an excuse to the extent they have. At some point you have to Man Up and deal with reality, and not hypotheticals.
     
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  8. Boxcel

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    Most deaths in pro boxing are a result of damage from sparring combined from dehydration. It's called second impact syndrome, where you get another concussion before the first one heals. Very rare in normal world events, but not as rare in boxing.

    Only those who have ever been through fight camps for amateur bouts should have an idea of just how intense it is. Don't downplay the wear and tear of amateur boxing. Yes, his chin combined with KO power is why he is still at a high level at 37 and not completely shot in his early 30s like amir khan.

    I'm also not calling him shot, he's obviously past his physical prime. I can't see how any competent person aren't able to see how much speed and explosiveness he has lost over the years.
     
  9. Boxcel

    Boxcel Member Full Member

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    Doesn't take a genius to deduce that a younger, faster, and more explosive version of Golovkin (such as a younger Golovkin) would've performed better than a slower older version.
     
  10. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All those guys you names beat Lemieux, Lemieux is a caveman boxer if you have good fundamentals you can beat him easy work. I still have triple G beating Lemieux, but Triple G is finished at the top level and he knows this.
     
  11. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    All this doesn't mean that you're not putting wear and tear on your body/senses. ~900 rounds of getting punched in the head, years and years of hard training is still gonna take it's toll more padding or not.
     
  12. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I just don't see it. GGG is kinda like Ali, I'm pretty sure you could punch him in the face all night long and he is not going night night.
     
  13. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Try not to offend, try harder not to be offended Full Member

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    Why are you guys so sure Canelo KO's GGG in the third fight even though we've never even seen GGG rocked AND Canelo is not a KO artist. Decent power but not big power. Canelo only has a 64% KO ratio and most of those came when he was fighting Tijuana taxi drivers whereas GGG has an 85% KO ratio fighting better opposition. You guys who think Canelo KOs GGG just because he is getting older are delusional.

    A fighter of GGG's caliber only comes along about every 7-10 years. Canelo, by comparison, is better than the average fighter but nothing special.
     
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  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    i am sure 3G kos canelo, he will not go easy on him this time. He did not want to hurt someone who was a former WW last time.
     
  15. RightLeftCombo

    RightLeftCombo Active Member Full Member

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    No, GGG is not "shot". He had a couple of rounds to take a look vs Rolls, stepped it up in the 3rd and finished it in the 4th. He wanted a few rounds, imo.

    Gennady is 37 though, that's getting on in years in boxing especially, he's likely post prime, and has had a lot of fights, amateur and pro.