Wilder vs Vitali

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, Jun 13, 2019.



Who wins?

  1. Vitali Stoppage

    42 vote(s)
    80.8%
  2. Vitali PTS

    3 vote(s)
    5.8%
  3. Wilder Stoppage

    7 vote(s)
    13.5%
  4. Wilder PTS

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Lol

    Vitali puts a career ending beatdown on Wilder, or potentially knocks him out with the first meaningful punch he lands.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like hell it was an anomaly.

    When did Vitali overcome an injury in a fight to win? There has to be a LOT of examples if the Byrd and Lewis fights are anomalies.

    Wilder suffered two broken hands and a torn bicep during title fights and won both.

    Vitali suffered an injured shoulder (against Byrd) and bad cuts (against Lewis) and lost both in the corner.

    If those were anomalies, when did he overcome a major injury in a fight to WIN?

    NAME ALL THE TIMES.

    When did he suffer a shoulder injury and still score a KO (like Danny Williams against Mark Potter) or when was Vitali brutally cut yet managed to score a knockout to win (like Marciano against Charles or Robinson against Turpin)?

    Name them?

    Truth is, Vitali was a front-runner who dominated smaller fighters. And on those rare occasions when he was faced with injuries in a fight, even fights he was leading, he didn't have "the heart or determination" to overcome them in the fight.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Truth is, Deontay is brawler who doesn't even dominate smaller fighters
     
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  4. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    His KO record - its 99.999% bums but he has put everyone down

    His power carries late into a fight

    His power comes from all angles...despite looking like he is swatting mosquitos at a BBQ.

    He has a great killer instinct.
     
  5. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Corrie Sanders rocked Vitali Klitschko with a big left hook.
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What? "Truth is?"

    Wilder has knocked out everyone he's fought except for Fury, who is 6'9" and outweighed him by 44 pounds.

    I don't know how to break this down for you, but if you knock your opponent out, that's dominance. You can't do anything MORE dominant in a boxing match than that.

    Einstein.

    Jesus. That might be the single dumbest thing I've read this week. You need to get off the internet for a while, George.

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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes. The truth is...
    Yes but he's litterally faced 3 top opponents, two of which would be completely unheard of in decent HW eras
    You don't have to. Let me

    Dominance is when you win every moment of the fight, a good example which you'll know about is Joshua vs Molina, Eric didn't win a second against Joshua and then was knocked out, that was dominant

    Whilst Wilder vs Molina (who is a smaller fighter) was not. Wilder lost rounds, was rocked but overcame adversity and KOed Molina, he won and had a great fight where he showed his heart and character but didn't dominate, regardless of the KO

    Let me ask you this, did Chavez dominate Meldrick Taylor in the first fight? He KOed him but only won 2 rounds

    Did Jake LaMotta dominate Laurent Dauthuille? He KOed him after losing all 14 rounds previously
    And Molina isn't the only one

    Ortiz, Smaller
    Washington, Smaller
    Spilka, Smaller
    Duhaupas, Smaller

    And none of them were world beaters

    Your logic is the one that's flawed
    Read through your old posts, you'll have a chuckle.
     
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  8. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I picked Vitali, but this would be a great fight and far better than most of the haters on this site predictably describe to the contrary. Sanders and old Lennox had Vitali seriously hurt, so while he has a great chin it's not like he's invulnerable. Wilder also would have a significant reach advantage, making Vitali's preferred style more difficult to implement.

    Ultimately, I like Vitali's ability to trade and think his awkwardness will tame Wilder's right hand a little. It's also worth noting that Wilder has been hurt in his past two fights, narrowly avoiding getting "Joshed" by Ortiz.
     
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  9. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prime for prime, Bit Vit beats him down...
     
  10. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This idiot's never seen Vitali fight!
     
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  11. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And you're so idiot you can't see I'm just joking with the "tko in 6" jezz
     
  12. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're too consistently idiotic to know when a post from you is a joke or serious....
     
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  13. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can't be that stupid to not know about the tko in 6...
     
  14. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This would actually be quite a dull fight early on, with both guys tentative and trying to figure each other out. Like his brother, Vitali liked to control the centre of the ring. Unlike him, he liked to bring his opponents onto him and time them with crafty counters. Wilder, on the other hand, is tentative around cagey counter punchers. Once the punchers start flying, it would spark into life.

    Vitali's legendary chin would be tested, but I expect it to hold up and Vitali, using his better ring IQ, will eventually start timing the predictable attacks of Wilder.

    Vitali by late KO or hard fought UD with Wilder's heart picking him up of the canvas.
     
  15. Up the gut

    Up the gut Active Member banned Full Member

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    add in to the equation none had a chin like Vit and it becomes even more unrealistic