Fury vs Schwarz

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  1. Unforgiven

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    1 year ago Fury fought Sefer Seferi and the consensus was that Fury was done and would be fighting bums in Macnchester or the Copper Box Arena for a couple of years and then fade away.
    Then he signed to fight Wilder and evreryone said he was cashing out and would be retired before Christmas !

    Now, he's #1 in the world and headlining in Las Vegas being heavily promoted by US broadcasters and promoters.

    Still, we have haters pretending he's not even popular.
     
  2. EX7EY

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    Did it bomb though? I haven't seen the viewing figures personally but the crowd in attendance seemed pretty excited about the fight to me.

    And yes, forget the quality of opponent. For a start, all fighters have soft touches. Secondly the fella was undefeated with a ranking. It makes sense.

    Saying it flopped blah blah blah. AJ in America is what's flopped. Supposed unified wrecking machine champion making his American debut got slapped around the ring by a Mr blobby wannabee. That's a flop.

    Tysons show cased his boxing in both fights. Say last night was a flop all you want but I don't think it was. In fact far from it.

    I agree tyson needs to step up the opposition inbetween fighting the top guys. But on the other hand aside from Wilder and AJ who is there in the division that's actually worth fighting realistically?

    Dillian Whyte possibly but Fury Whyte has no chance of happening unless there's a world title on the line.

    Povetkin, old and dusted off by AJ.
    Takam, fringe level and stopped by AJ.
    Brezeale, pudding.
    Miller, drugs cheat.
    Chisora, irrelevant now.
    Parker, maybe but he's just signed with match room.
    Ortiz, old man already fighting wilder again and already dusted by wilder.

    Obviously there are other names but you get my point.

    The only fights that matter in this division right now are fury vs wilder, fury vs AJ, AJ vs Wilder, AJ vs Ruiz rematch. And ruiz vs wilder or fury but only just made himself relevant by relieving AJ of his belts.

    And to be completely honest AJ's part in the above has lost it's appeal as far as I'm concerned. He's not the same since going life and death with old man klit. He's still one of the top guys but when he gets clipped it sends his head west and he's there to be finished. I think wilder would land a bomb and KO him clean and Fury would just dance round him for 12 and make him look silly.
     
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  3. Unforgiven

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    Joshua was a complete disaster in America.
    And he'll lose a lot of respect from fans if the rematch is made for UK as well.
    All the talk about being a global brand and he's unable to perform outside of his country.
     
  4. TonyHayers

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    Is he really that popular? The venue was well over half empty last night.
     
  5. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great performance, perfect showcase for Fury in America. That’s how you pick an opponent to make you look good to US fans...lesson for Eddie Hearn there from old man Bob.

    Schwartz was useless but Fury was punch perfect.
     
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  6. pow

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    Doesn't matter it looked full from the TV pictures and that's all the US public will care about when his legendary Apollo Creed entrance is on every new station in America this morning. Absolutely smashed it. That's how you do a US debut, Tony.
     
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  7. destruction

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    Tyson Fury passes the eye test better than any other HW on the planet, his skills are not in question.

    However his resume is in question, as his willingness to face the best.

    His next opponent needs to be one of the following: Wilder, AJ, Ruiz Jr, Usyk or Joyce.

    Dont puff yourself up with the lineal champion bull ****, and then face a glorified German nightclub bouncer.
     
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  8. Wig

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    yeah but big iosh could easily sell 50-60k tickets in wales against dillian whyteleafe / dave allen
     
  9. TonyHayers

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    I'm not convinced. After the Wilder fight we were told Fury had gone viral, that he was a massive star, that he'd become a household name and so on. Last night suggested that hadn't quite happened.

    The trouble with these things is that the morning after they feel a lot bigger than they do in the long term.
     
  10. pow

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    He beat Klitschko in GERMANY on points and drew with Deontay Wilder in AMERICA in a fight the overwhelming majority of the boxing community thought he won. And you question the mans willingness? You are a joke.
     
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  11. ryanm8655

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    He’s the biggest star in heavyweight boxthing. The new money mans.
     
  12. TonyHayers

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    He had those fights abroad because he couldn't draw flies in his own country. Rematch with Klitschko bombed, his comeback fights saw him booed.

    He's willing to fight big names, but he's got a weird CV. He's been a pro for a decade and after Klitschko and Wilder the level of opposition falls away considerably. Chisora is probably his best win after those and he loses every time he steps up pretty much. Odd that you've had a second tire of Whyte, Ortiz, Povetkin, Pulev and so on for years and he's never fought any of them.
     
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  13. ryanm8655

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    Just accept it big tone...there’s a new king in town.
     
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  14. pow

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    You are not factoring in his time out of the ring and the business model they have in place. As you well know they are building up to a Wilder rematch. There will be no second tier fights as he has no mandatory to defend unlike AJ.
     
  15. destruction

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    Willingness to fight the best, based on the rest of his resume...excluding those two fights son.

    Including his choice to face Schwarz above a large number of better opponents. Now if he faces a real elite level boxer next then it is much better, but if not, then its coming across as a bit of scam.

    I criticise all elite boxers who take the easy route and cherry pick, but pass it off as some kind of test. He has called Breazeale a bum, but he would have bombed Schwarz out in 2-3 rounds as well.