WBA and WBC and pushing for Wilder v Ruiz!

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    So it has nothing do with Haymon pushing for it because both fighters are under his banner? And it has nothing to do with WBC and WBA favoritism of Ruiz due to his heritage? You're one smart guy.
     
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  2. BIGLU

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    Is fury under his banner? Did it stop that fight happening? Its seen as an easy fight that's why. They think Andy's win is a fluke and want deontay to have all the belts.
    They want to take them before they believe AJ wins the rematch and regains power.

    Why wouldn't they want both fighters to hold on to titles and defend against others if they gave a **** about Ruiz?
     
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  3. mb1233

    mb1233 Active Member Full Member

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    The first Mexican HW champ vs the KO machine isn't a huge fight to you? I expected Haymon/PBC to push for this fight next.

    AJ will just get whooped in the rematch again. Most agree that it would take more than a few months to fix what went wrong against Ruiz.
     
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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Like I said. You're one smart guy. Levels ahead of me.

    1. Wilder and Fury both couldn't make fights with Joshua
    2. Widler and Fury fight each other instead.
    3. You: Widler could easily fight Joshua if he could fight Fury.
     
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  5. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The more unifications, the better.
     
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  6. BIGLU

    BIGLU Member Full Member

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    I never said any of this crap you are saying. I merely pointed out that wilder suddenly wants to get in there for all the belts and he ain't gonna get a huge pay day like vs Joshua with the belts. It's about ease to him, or supposed ease.
    He wants 50 percent vs AJ but he will take a huge cut to fight Ruiz.
    It was stalling tactics.

    Its all pointless anyway as there is a contract in place. Joshua vs Ruiz is happening
     
  7. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Well, seeing as Hearn said the most important thing for heavyweight boxing was to see an undisputed champion, I'm sure he won't stand in the way.... lol
     
  8. BIGLU

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    Answer me why couldn't they make the fights? Since you seem to imply you are privy to al the inner workings.

    Wilder wants half vs AJ which would imply it's about money?

    But he will fight Ruiz for what we all know will be far less money.

    Learn to read between the lines. There are many ways to stall or duck, pricing yourself out Is one of them.

    If all deontay wanted was the belts and to be paid he would've gotten the biggest pay day of his life vs Joshua even without the split he demanded. All he had to do was win.

    Same with ortiz, he wanted crazy money.
    They didnt want the fights.

    Fury wont fight whyte as hes not worthy ( his words) but will fights the German guy.

    It's all bull ****, smoke and mirrors.
     
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  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Ask Slick Eddie.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    He isn't ducking AJ if he's preferring a fight against the man who's just knocked AJ out in 7 rounds.

    Wilder vs Ruiz is a huge fight now as its for all the marbles.

    AJ needs to get in line.
     
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  11. BIGLU

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    I said he WAS ducking AJ. Hed probably fight him no problem now he has shown his weaknesses.

    He picked fury because he thought he was out of his peak
     
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  12. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Joshua wants to wait till November or December let's do wilder vs Ruiz Mexican independence day weekend in staples

    Winner vs Joshua in December
     
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  13. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    If i was Ruiz i would be looking at where i was going to make the most money, both AJ and Wilder have the ability of beating Ruiz, so Mr Ruiz bank the best purse, it will be mega money whichever opponent, and will secure his and his familys future.

    If he should win in rematch or indeed against Wilder then great, if not then the future is going to be financially easy anyway.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    I reckon if AJ would have offered 50/50 Wilder would have took the fight.

    He's fought the next best HW and is willing to fight the guy who knocked Joshua out.

    I don't think there's any reason to think he's a ducker.
     
  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Before Wilder's stock increased after the Fury fight, he accepted Hearn's disgraceful 15 million flat fee off, then once they accepted Hearn pulled Joshua out of the deal to fight povetkin.

    So first before you pull any more misinformation, learn to get your facts straight.
     
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