Top Ten Ring Magazine rated opponents beaten since 1990, Heavyweight title holders.

Then post the monthly issue ratings. Because Solis isn't rated in the Ring ratings (which you told us to use) three months before his fight with Vitali. And he isn't rated after he lost, either. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2010

And Arreola isn't listed in the ratings (which you told us to use) six months before he fought Vitali. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2008

And Kevin Johnson isn't listed in the ratings (which you told us to use) in either annual Ring rating posted in 2009 (March and December) the year he fought Vitali. Kevin Johnson never appeared in any Ring annual rating - before or after fighting Vitali. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2008
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2009

And here is Stiverne ... ranked 7th. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2016

So, they ranked Stiverne. Did not rank Odlanier Solis, Chris Arreola and Kevin Johnson. You must be confusing RING ratings with WBC ratings. And BOXREC drops people who haven't fought in a year. Not RING.

You set the rules. According to your Rules, Vitali has five. And Wilder has four, and is about to engage in his fifth.

 

The Wilder-Stiverne rematch was held in November 2017. Steverne's last Ring ratings appearance was back in January 2017.

Kevin Johnson was rated 10th in the January 2010 Ring, ratings as of October 18th. I don't have the ratings from the following issue; I don't know if he held onto that ranking going into the December Vitali fight.

Chris Arreola was rated 6th in the December 2009 Ring, ratings as of September 18th. He fought Vitali on September 26th.

Much can change in boxing from month-to-month. Using the annual ratings from BoxRec needs to be done with caution. Unfortunately, finding old monthly rankings is a difficult task, so BoxRec's annual ratings is a good tool. But, again, it needs to be done with caution.

 

Tyson and Ruddock were ranked by Ring #2 and #3, respectively, going into both bouts.

 

Correct, Tubbs wasn't rated by Ring.
Coetzer wasn't either, but he was #8 in Ring's sister publication, KO. Go figure.
Donald was #7.
Hide was #6.

These are from the monthly issues using the "as of" date closest to before the fight, NOT the annual ratings on Boxrec.
Unfortunately, during some years I was more diligent than other years about saving ratings from magazines. Thus I don't have anything from after March 1995, 1996, or 1997, so I can't help with Bowe's later bouts.

 

Yes. I had Hide. Not Donald.

Not as many as you would think, regardless.

 

Correct, Moorer was not ranked going into the Tua fight.
Oquendo was not ranked going into the Byrd fight.
I don't have the issues before the Klitschko - Gomez fight; can't help you there.

 

Hve Schultz and Botha been confirmed? They didn’t crack annual ratings.

 

I understand the rules as you wrote them.

Deontay Wilder - Bermane Stiverne 1, Bermane Stiverne 2, Luis Ortiz 1, Tyson Fury 1 and now he's fighting Luis Ortiz again.

Four going on five.

And, as I said to you in another thread, Wilder fighting guys ranked highly for YEARS by RING trumps Vitali fighting Kevin Johnson (who was rated #10 when he signed to fight Vitali and was apparently rated for eight weeks) and never was rated again ... because Kevin Johnson had no business ever being ranked in the RING top 10 to begin with.

Anyone who had a ring #10 rating for a MONTH is deemed by you to be as good as facing a RING champ. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.

The quality of the RING ratings varies drastically at times. Some years, a guy like Eddie Chambers is as high as #3, and some years guys who beat Eddie Chambers (like Gerald Washington) never get considered because, by then, the top 10 is filled with a helluva lot better guys than Eddie Chambers.

Simply counting anyone who briefly showed up for a whiff at #10 the same as fighting someone who has been highly rated by Ring for FOUR CONSECUTIVE YEARS is laughable and agenda driven.

But then again, you know that.

That's all. I'm not wasting any more time on this.

 

WE GET IT.

Oh GREAT! Stiverne, who was ranked by RING from 2012 to 2017 briefly dropped out of the ratings before fighting Wilder, so you can take him off Wilder's list and ADD Kevin Johnson to Vitali's, because he was #10 in the ratings for eight weeks before Vitali fought him.

No agenda at all.

What a joke.

 

You just don't understand the rules, Rumsfeld. (wink)

Vitali beat Juan Carlos Gomez.

And, in this exercise, beating Gomez and Kevin Johnson IS BETTER than Douglas toppling Tyson.

Because you see, Gomez and Johnson were TWO RING ranked Fighters, and Tyson was just ONE.

And whether you were the Undisputed champ and appeared in the ratings for a decade or you were rated #10 for eight weeks and were never seen again, one win over a Ring top 10 guy counts the same as any other.

No agenda, of course.