Will Eddie Hearn Force Joshua Into Ruiz Jr Rematch Against His Will?

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  1. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hearn was amusing after the fight, it was like he wanted to get in and fight Ruiz himself he was so desperate to regain control. I don’t know about AJ not wanting the fight but Hearn was speaking for him immediately after AJ got beaten senseless, which I felt was a bit out of line. In an ideal world AJ should have a confidence builder after that loss, people say “what else can he do”. But there are other options before he gets straight back in, it’s not like these big fights are getting made next month, fury and wilder rematch is still nearly a year away if it happens at all. Not good but at the same time what does it matter what AJ does to rebuild? If AJ loses again where does he go then? I think the urgency for the rematch is a mistake and you have to put Hearn there as the driving force.
     
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  2. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    im waiting for the end scene when Joshua shoots everyone then knee caps Hearn and blows up Wembly
     
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  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    It would be funny if it wasn't true, however sadly Joshua is forbidden from signing his own contracts

    See video below for when Hearn admitted he signs contracts on behalf of AJ and at the same time admits he owns Joshua but makes it sound a bit more palatable for the casuals by including the word promotional

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    You'll notice in most interviews Joshua does, Hearn stands or sits behind him making sure he doesn't speak anything which doesn't tie in with Eddie's narrative. and why now no journalists are allowed to interview at all because Eddie Hearn can't afford to have Joshua give off the impression that he has lost confidence and is determined to make the first defeat look like a mere slip rather than a serious deficiency with his fighter.
     
  4. First Round KO

    First Round KO Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua will be in meltdown leading up to the rematch, he will totally collapse as he enters the ring, AJ is getting KTFO.
     
  5. chico g

    chico g What are you staring at Mr Trump?! hahaha! Full Member

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    The bodybuilder will be restrained and dragged into the ring by Eddie and his DAZN goons kicking and screaming. The blob Ruiz will be waiting for his victim, and they'll drop a steel cage around the outside the ring to stop Joshua from escaping. It will be a beatdown of epic proportions from that gluttonous brute.
     
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  6. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AJ is losing his confidence so he needs to build it up again. I support AJ not to take an immediate rematch.
     
  7. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Spinal! Full Member

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    AJ should spend all day every day before the Ruiz fight learning to throw and use the jab. A piston-jab would take care of Ruiz. As soon as he gets inside you clinch. Simple but effective. Ask old Wladimir.
     
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  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    The level of your audacity is shocking, how on earth can you assert what Joshua wants or doesn’t want, no sane, intelligent psychologist would dare to do so let alone an unqualified bystander such as yourself.

    If you ask me more intelligent questions you’ll get intelligent responses from me in return I have no bias against you, it’s simply your lack of coherency in all your content that is contaminating the forum.

    Yes there is some roleplay between AJ and Hearn, with hearn being the PR slash boxing promoter hired by AJ.

    There is some input from Hearn on descision making but AJ is his own man, he simply lacks the depth to get involved with business strategy and promotions without guidance from Sky, Matchroom or Eddie Hearn.

    But Eddie Hearn doesn’t tell AJ how to live his life or he will get fired. AJ is a boxer he knows damn well who he wants to fight, and all his actions leading up his loss against Ruiz indicate Joshua was in it for Legacy and to stick around. He wants to make his mark.

    He lost a fight, and the rest is history, he will take the rematch and give it another go. If you sre implying AJ is scared to fight then there ain’t enough logic in the world to back your claims or to convince anyone on the forum who has an IQ north of 100
     
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  9. Fanta Punch

    Fanta Punch New Member banned Full Member

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    Do you really think most people on this forum have an IQ north of 100?
     
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  10. Fanta Punch

    Fanta Punch New Member banned Full Member

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    Translation - I have emotional problems
     
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  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    A poster with multiple alts who has form for harassing posters is talking about contaminating forums :lol:

    That's very rich.

    I make a thread, and sure enough you will cry about it because usually they will exposes what is going on inside MR which you always go out of your way to defend to the hilt.

    Wouldn't surprise me if you are on their payroll with some of the content you come out with on here.

    Let me not digress.

    Hearn goes far beyond acting as mere PR promoter. What other boxing ''PR'' promoter talks on behalf of their fighter and makes decisions before they've even been consulted?

    What other promoter fails to inform their client of rematch clauses placed inside a contract?


    The fact is Hearn has answered on Joshua's behalf when it came to deciding whether there was going to be an immediate rematch. Joshua was not consulted, Hearn made the decision for him inside the ring. The post fight video shows evidence of this in full.

    Joshua admitted himself he didn't know of any rematch clause and you seem to still think he the one making decisions? Use your ****ing brain - if he doesn't know what's included in his own contracts, doesn't sign his own contracts and has someone else answering on his behalf, that means he's not the one calling the shots!

    Sure his input will be taken on board on what he'd like to see happen, but ultimately the final decision rests in Hearn's hands.

    I'd also suggest you refrain from strawman arguments since I never made any statement that Joshua was scared to fight Ruiz Jr in a rematch. From my knowledge speaking with those who actually know Johusa personally, his desire is to have a few more preparatory fights rather than head straight into the rematch.

    We know the decision is not up to him. Barry Hearn already revealed the long term plan they had in store for AJ which will now have to be revised.
     
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  12. Special one

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    Haha levels of stupidity keep rising with this guy!! So Joshua, who has his own YouTube channel AJboxing or something, but is censored by Hearn and not allowed to do interviews or sign contracts. Eddie works for AJ not the other way around. You need to look a little closer to home to see a fighter who's under a man's control. Turn down 120 million to fight Brezeale and Ortiz for less than 30!! Cos Al and Shelley told me too!! Hahaha
     
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  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I most probably overstated things :) Demographics and all that... *Awkward smile*
     
  14. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't understand Joshua being portrayed as a victim. How can a man who is superior to Hearn be controlled by him? How can those of the famed superior kind ever be victims?

    Personally, I hope his career is ruined by this move, his sponsors lose a ton of money and he blows his riches on dodgy real estate deals in Nigeria, before being kidnapped and processed into meat for some of those exclusive Nigerian restaurants that still serve traditional cuisine of a rather taboo kind. The British would still knight him and make period mini-series linking his lineage to the Tudors.

    Unfortunately, he'll probably beat Ruiz and Hearn will be back smirking on YT and Joshua will be back oiling himself on IG and getting paid obscene money for contributing absolutely nothing to 'humanity'. And he'll probably do a concert for Africa with Elton John and a vegan transgender Duke, and be made global ambassador for overcoming adversity with diversity and a stiff upper lip.
     
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  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Show me the most recent Joshua interview with an independent journalist and not one set up through his channel? When he first came on to the scene he wasn't even allowed to curse on camera since Eddie wanted to hone in on the stay humble Mr Nice Persona.

    Then I would like for you to show evidence or confirmation from anyone that Joshua signs his own contracts since you believe what I've stated is incredulous.

    As for Wilder he chose not to sell out to a questionable network and he is free to conduct his own interview as so when he pleases. Neither he is censored and he's control of his own destiny.

    Money isn't everything, Shelly and Al Haymon are a far more experienced and trusted promoters than the DAZN umbrella who's only existed for 5 minutes.

    You also missed the part where both Eddie and Barry talked AJ out of accepting 50 million even when he was considering taking the deal.