Is Joshua more Price, or Harrison?

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  1. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He still lost twice due to injuries, and the haters being those losses up all the time to discredit him
     
  2. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pirce did quit vs Kuzmin...so yeah
     
  3. Can I box

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    He quit in the corner vs Lewis.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He didn't. The doctor stopped the fight and he protested against it
     
  5. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hate that grin.
     
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  6. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol
     
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  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    What about when AJ put Ruiz down first, can you describe that for us?
     
  8. First Round KO

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    Yes no problem, Andy took the shot like a pro and recovered, AJ quit when he was caught.
     
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  9. VG_Addict

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    The fact that Joshua won a world title and beat some top fighters makes him MUCH better than Price or Harrison.
     
  10. VG_Addict

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    More like by a light year.
     
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  11. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He’s better and more durable than either, but his inexperience finally caught up with him against Ruiz.

    Despite his success Joshua is still extremely green and badly in need of rounds and should be kept more active, so he can keep learning his trade. He also needs to become more efficient in how he operates in
    the ring, since trying to fight at the pace he does with the weight he carries is always going to gas him out.
     
  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    But they both got up after taking the shot, maybe something else happened in the X-ray band that viewers didn't see.

    Either that, or you are talking out your arse.

    One set of standard for Ruiz and another for AJ.
     
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  13. First Round KO

    First Round KO Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Andy recovered when the going got tough, AJ wimped out like the bum he was exposed for, next time the robot gets KTFO.
     
  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Clearly, Joshua had had a better career than both.

    However, Audley Harrison won the Olympic Super Heavyweight Gold Medal for Great Britain, too. Which narrows the gap a bit.

    And Audley beat Alexei Lezin (one of the greatest amateur heavyweights ever - who was younger than Harrison) in his opening bout, even though Harrison had a broken knuckle, which also narrows the gap a bit.

    In terms of PERSONALITY (note personality), Harrison was sort of the Jack Johnson to Anthony Joshua's Joe Louis.

    The Brits seemed to HATE Harrison, because he was cocky and seemed to value money over everything. It didn't help that Harrison managed his own career, for the most part. So he always talked about money.

    Joshua was just as interested in cleaning up financially, too, but he hid it under the "aw shucks" type of image and let his promoter/manager Hearn do all the money grubbing, like Louis did with his team.

    And the Brits embraced Joshua like they hadn't embraced any heavyweight since Bruno.

    Harrison just seemed to rub them all the wrong way before he had his first pro fight.

    I always like Harrison. His career was plagued by constant TV negotiations that turned fans against him ... and injuries ... Harrison was always hurt, it seemed. He was injured briefly after his pro debut. He tore a pec after his third win which required surgery.

    Then he went on a fighting streak and rose to 17-0, when he scored a stoppage win over Tomasz Bonin for the obscure WBF belt (which was meaningless). But he badly damaged a ligament in his hand again that required surgery, and his TV deal expired, so he was out for another year.

    When he returned, it was in the US, which the Brits hated. They didn't want Harrison in the UK, but they also didn't want him to be a success in the U.S., either. Then Harrison sprained his ankle days before his comeback fight with Robert Daniels. He had himself taped and braced, and scored another KO. After another KO win in the U.S., he returned to the UK to fight Danny Williams.

    At that point, Harrison was 19-0. I remember actually ordering the cheap PPV in the US featuring Harrison vs. Danny Williams (their first fight). I was SHOCKED by the British announcers who just ripped Harrison to shreds round after round - and he was their undefeated Olympic Heavyweight Gold Medalist!

    On the other hand, Williams was LOVED because he'd beaten Mike Tyson and fought Vitali for the title a year or so earlier.

    When it was announced Williams had won a split decision, the announcers rejoiced, and I was shocked because I thought Harrison won in a very competitive fight. I certainly didn't think it was a fight that Harrison should've been "mocked" for. I thought he won.

    And the wheels sort of came off after that. Harrison went back to the US and looked totally lost against Dominic Guinn. Then Harrison went back to the UK and fought Sprott. Audley floored him and was dominating Sprott, which angered everyone in the audience and the announcers. Then Sprott closed his eyes and threw a wild shot that caught Harrison just right and ended the fight. And they laughed at Harrison again.

    It didn't matter that Harrison stopped Williams and Sprott in rematches. Harrison was still a joke.

    The fact that Harrison won the Olympic Gold Medal and got to 19-0, after overcoming injury after injury and having his entire country freaking hating his guts ...

    While Joshua totally fell apart and quit the moment he fought in hostile territory against someone who regularly punched back against him, leads me to believe there isn't MUCH better.

    Joshua literally went down four times and quit ... and the Brits are still lifting him up and trying to help not get down.

    I don't think Harrison ever fought in front of a wildly ecstatic pro-Harrison crowd - at home or abroad - and he still managed to overcome significant injuries to go to 19-0 (and I felt 20-0).

    In terms of how much he overcame to win the Gold and then put together a modestly successful pro career, while he basically managed himself, Harrison was much better than people give him credit for.

    If Harrison had a less arrogant image, and he signed with a top promoter who guided him better (instead of making enemies of the promoters by trying to guide his own career), I think Audley would've been a champ, too.

    He certainly fought through a ton of injuries.

    By the time he got to the David Haye fight, Harrison was 39 years old and had been operated on a dozen times. Hell, he ruptured his pec in the fight (the Sprott rematch) before the Haye match and had to have major surgery to repair that as well. And he scored a late KO against Sprott even though he (Harrison) had a ruptured pec.

    Could Joshua score a KO with a ruptured Pec? Or would he quit?

    I know this is basically a British fan site, but you guys were ALWAYS wrong about Audley Harrison. If you treated Joshua like you treated Harrison, I don't Joshua would've had the mental strength to achieve a fraction of what he has.

    We'll see how Joshua does now that people are starting to question him. And lets see how he does if he's ever injured in a fight (to the point he needs surgery) and if he can overcome the injury during the fight to win.

    If Joshua was injured as often as Harrison was, think he'd have gotten this far? I kind of don't.

    Hell, would Joshua even be an Olympic Gold Medalist if the Olympics he won weren't in London? He got a number of dodgy calls in that, as well.

    Joshua has had EVERYTHING go his way. The first time he was faced with adversity, and the fans were cheering for the other guy, Joshua quit.

    Is he just a frontrunner? We'll see.
     
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  15. Aydamn

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    We'll see about that.