Rivas is going to stop Whyte in a brutal fight!

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  1. Furious

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    In the past you’ve been very realistic about Whyte’s ability. If you had to put money on it, how would you guess Whyte gets on against Wilder, Joshua, Fury, Ruiz, Povetkin and Ortiz? (Individually of course..)
     
  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I respect your opinion and your analysis but with regards to your comparison of Wilder/Whyte looking bad up until their magic shot I don’t fully agree with for these reasons:
    • Whyte is somewhat technically challenged when compared with the elite but he is is no where near as bad as Wilder. His shot selection is far more versatile and is not one dimensional like Wilder, which leads to my second point...

    • Whyte carries power in several ways that most heavies do not have... namely the body shots which deal tremendous damage to his opponent no matter who they are... whether it is parker... chisora... AJ these men suffered badly from Dillians body work which can turn the outcome of the fight in Dillians favour... something Wilder ... a bonafide headhunter... simply doesn't execute enough off... instead relying on a one shot KO to the head
    So therefore While Wilder is looking always for that one shot to end the fight... Whyte is physically and mentally breaking down his opponent all the way up until his left KO lands

    Might not be all that technical but all his shots do serious damage from the get go, round 1, not just his left hook that lands and seals the deal.

    Whyte is a good boxer, Wilder is two levels below, because Whyte understands the important of the Jab constantly, to score points, to set up shots, to break his opponents rythm... he does it well if his technique isn't great... and he throws good versatile combinations to deal significant damage over the course of the fight.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

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    60-40 in Wilder's favour, I think Whyte making Wilder the agressor is the way for him to win, coz then he can potentially time his cross and land that left hook.
    Also considering the fight probably doesn't happen for a year and a half, Wilder may have slowed down by then as well.
    First two rounds look the same as the first fight, Joshua jabs and trys to pressure gets caught with a left and then it starts going wrong
    But this time, Whyte will have a much better engine, better fundimentals and his best punch will be at least 5 times as powerful
    Whyte KO and I'm almost certain
    Fury UD, Fury causes all sorts of issues for Whyte. It's not a matter of class but styles, both move back, Fury does it better and is bigger with a much quicker jab. Whyte looks ok on the front foot, but Fury is not Lucas Browne, Furys Defence is too good and he's too big and quick for me
    85-15 in Fury's favour
    Ruiz coming forward with that many punches is asking for him to be KOed, Whyte will do it even if it takes a while
    Probably a 65-35 fight in Whyte's favour imo
    Whyte KO, he'd trade hooks and that's not good, Povetkin has a good overhand but he'd get countered and I can't see him working behind a jab on the balls of his feet outboxing Whyte
    70-30 Whyte's favour
    Whyte KO and I'm absolutely positive
    Ortiz is very overrated imo, His jab was good a few years ago but now (and when this fight was discussed) is slow and easy to time, as a southpaw I know a good left hook is a pain in the ass if they can get good distance on it over your shoulder when you throw a jab, Whyte would eventually do that and Ortiz's defence isn't what it was either. Him being very flatfooted doesn't help him as well
     
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  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Against Ruiz/ Joshua
    I’d comfortably back Whyte to beat Ruiz and AJ based on the fact that Whyte can handle their shots and bounce back to deal his own damage ... Whyte proved to me in his loss against AJ that if he just improved a few minor things he could beat AJ in exactly the same way Ruiz did. And Whyte has improved every weakness he had since that fight.

    Against Ruiz Whyte has a mental advantage over AJ in that never for one second would Whyte overlook Ruiz as an opponent or get complacent. He always fights with an underdog, immigrant mentality and wouldn’t underestimate his opponents danger like AJ but he made a mistake in judgement calls in the past on when to exchange like in the 12 round of Parker fight.... of which he definitely learned his lesson.

    Against Wilder
    I have no problem backing Whyte to beat the living crap out of Wilder except Wilders one punch power is a serious game change because Wilder is fast atheletic and accurate enough to deliver that shot consistently and reliably. Whyte as durable as he is would still get hurt by that punch and I am not convinced he could get off the canvas from it like Fury because that was a miracle....however if he can avoid a clean shot from Wilder he will break Wilder down because a 6 ft 7 215 pound man will never in a million years withstand the body punishment Whyte can put on him. And if Wilder doesn’t quit from the body shots he will slow down enough for Whyte to take advantage with combinations up top.... providing Whyte doesnt get lazy and forget Wilders hand speed even when Wilders mid section is wincing in pain.

    Against Fury
    As for Fury, I wouldn't put any money because Fury is a tough night for Dillian, and a bad matchup as Dillian is fire and Fury is water.
    He would make Dillian pay of his inadequacies in the punch accuracy department, as well as mobility and somewhat range. Whyte can fight taller fighters well if said fighters choose to stand and trade from time to time... but if they fight long and awkward like Fury would.... then Whyte wont know what to do because he is a natural counterpuncher not an attacker..its just not in his genetic profile

    However Whyte is smart and he does have a versatile arsenal to find a way to win and I genuinely believe he can slow fury down with body work just enough to give himself a chance of making it a more even fight

    Povetkin/Ortiz
    Given their age, they are little match now for Dillian who is fresh, young, prime, seasoned, bigger, stronger...but Povetkin is always dangerous because he is fast and accurate.. Whyte would need a gameplan but I am confident his aforementioned advantages secure him a victory...Ortiz is technically sound so Whyte would have to grind out a stoppage.

    But right now both are too old to be able to beat up Whyte.
     
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  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I know all about Orcs now, productive Saturday :yaay
     
  6. Up the gut

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    You creep :lol:
     
  7. Up the gut

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    Whyte took his time imo, he could've had Del Boy out sooner
     
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    :lol:, so you gonna start perving CST80 now youve crept ???? Oh my Lord above
     
  9. DoubleJab666

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    When Chisora was stopped he was ahead on the cards of two of the judges. Whyte may have been timing that left hook all night but while doing so was losing the fight. He was able to land it with full effect only after the ref had deducted a point and Chisora - unwisely as it turns out - went looking for him. Fair play, he landed it good and solid but let's not ignore the bigger picture to pay homage to a punch...
     
  10. sid

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    Looking forward to this fight should be a good one.
     
  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Fair play, but let's not ignore the fact that neither Dillian or Chisora were remotely thinking of letting it go to UD or points... they both hand ONE intention to KO the other person, so even if Chisora was ahead on the cards, it wasn't his intention to be so given how he lost the last fight.

    Whyte timed all night, Chisora increased his punch output all night hoping to blow Whyte out of there.... Chisora lost his cool and a chink in his armour presented itself.

    It's not Whyte's fault that Chisora lost his cool with the elbowing and the constant head butting style of Chisora... which is what Evander constantly did to Mike Tyson before Tyson lost his cool and bite off his ear.
     
  12. VG_Addict

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    Has anyone noticed how much bigger Whyte is than Rivas?
     
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  13. Up the gut

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    Excellent :lol:...And dont forget, No means Yes !!!!
     
  14. Up the gut

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    Is it big ?? i haven't seen them next to each other
     
  15. VG_Addict

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