Helenius's Chin is GONE!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Zakman, Jul 13, 2019.


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  1. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    God forbid!!!
     
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  2. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Listen denier, I've probably been watching boxing since you were in diapers, and in all that time, NOTHING has emerged that is more determinative of the outcome of a fight than punch resistance. Simply put, if you don't have a chin, you're not likely to reach the top of the game.

    Or, as in the case of Helenius, or someone like Roy Jones, remain at the top of the game if your chin deteriorates. Look at Helenius, he was winning the fight, as he SHOULD against an inferior fighter like Washington. But his mandible let him down, and he lost.
     
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  3. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What about all those right hands he absorbed before the one that hurt him?
     
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  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Apparently they weren't hard enough punches to put him on the deck. Washington is hardly known as a particularly hard hitter, which is exactly why Helenius getting starched by him shows that his ability to take a punch has deteriorated so much. If he had a solid chin, he would have CONTINUED to absorb those punches. This is what punch RESISTANCE (i.e. "chin") means.
     
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  5. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah but glass chin doesn't mean someone who absorbs power shots for 8 rounds
     
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  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Translation: If a 6'5", 240-pound man punches you flush on the chin with hard right hands for 23 minutes, and you don't blink ... but then he hits you with a hard right hand with everything behind it, right on the point of the chin in the 24th minute, and you go down, you have NO chin.

    LOL.

    Helenius showed great punch resistance throughout the fight. Not a single person during the entire fight who was posting on this board said Robert Helenius could no longer take a punch.

    The last shot caught him just right. We all saw it.
     
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  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Zakman: Anyone not equally obsessed with calling out fighters for having a glass jaw after a KO loss is a glass jaw denier

    Sugar 88: I think you probably have a glass jaw Zak. And no balls.
     
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  8. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Feel Washington is a bit hard done by.

    The stoppage against wilder left me like ????? Wilder literally hitting air while being outboxed
     
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  9. Ms. Zakman

    Ms. Zakman New Member Full Member

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    Last night when I landed a punch on his fragile mandible, he went right to sleep.
     
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  10. Wasteman

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    Time he calls it a day.
     
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  11. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    just shows how overrated whyte is by his fans.
     
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  12. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Chin or no chin for the fact he got beaten by a huge bum like Washington means its time to hang up the gloves he is done..
     
    Mr Icaman, Jul 14, 2019
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  13. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    He won't. He lives to accuse fighters of having glass jaws.
     
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  14. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Can’t anyone over 200 pounds git hard enough or is that a myth now? yeah washington ain’t a KO artist but he is still a 6 foot 6 heavyweight who is a solid 250

    Does being a boxer automatically make your chin stronger? Does being a heavyweight mean your chin is twice as dense as a non heavyweight?

    Jesus
     
    Aydamn, Jul 15, 2019
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  15. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Punch resistance, and power, is proportionate to the size of the combatants. This is why they have weight divisions. There are light hitters in every division, average punchers, and heavy punchers. Similarly, punch resistance exists on a scale from glass (weak) to iron (strong).

    Washington, as demonstrated by his fights at the top level, is toward the lighter end of the punching spectrum. And Helenius, these days, is towards the weaker end of the punch resistance spectrum. Hence, the result of this fight.
     
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