Duran already had 61 fights when he beat Ray Leonard. He had only one loss in those 61 fights. How many did Floyd have 40 or 50?
I think he was 72-1 after SRL 1 …. Floyd wasn't built for 72 fights … so the thread is pointless, imo …
Duran fought Prime Buchanon, Prime De Jesus, Prime SRL x2 , Prime Hearns, Prime Haglar, Prime Barkley .. What ATG did Floyd fight when they were in their Prime as well? NOBODY. Duran 119 fights, Floyd 50 fights .. You can tow the state of Texas through what Duran accomplished in the sport and what Floyd accomplished. Not a risk taker, not an active fighter and conveniently on vacation . Get a clue dude
Duran would have been undefeated against Floyds opposition but one thing I give Floyd credit for is always being in shape. Duran was 71-1 when he faced SRL but had he been in condition for his first fight against Esteban DeJesus he would have been 72- 0 Duran partied too much & did not eat right but I don’t see him having any problem with any of Floyds opposition.
Duran's career had two phases: 72-1 with 40+ fights of garbage opposition, several good and decent wins, and a win against an ATG shortly followed by a "no mas" against the same guy. (De Jesus was very good but no ATG.) The second phase of his career featured mixed results with a bunch of loses to great (Hearns, Hagler, Benitez) and sometimes not great opposition, and three notable wins (Castro, Barkely, and Moore).
And I understand your point... But his doesn't hold water. You can't say can you imagine if Floyd fought 71 fights with these no hoppers and conveniently leave out who Duran was getting in the ring with later... No I can't imagine Floyd in 71 fights because he only had 50. You have to put in the work first before you can get credit for it … And that's how this sport works … So fight number 51 for Floyd is anybody's guess
Mayweather was fighting world class amatures when Duran was fighting nobodies. Duran wouldn't have been fighting Leonard after 70+ pro fights if he had been a serious am. It would've been more like 30 fights.
Maybe , maybe not … A lot of pros had a long amateur careers, some shorter, whatever … woulda shoulda coulda for me … I mean look how differently Pac handled his career and Floyd handled his ,, both turning pro same time
Manny had like 15 fights by the time Floyd turned pro and he's younger. His flyweight career was basically in place of an am career.
My point was that your numbers-based argument was idiotic, as Duran’s numbers were bloated by the types of fights I mentioned. So the thread is not pointless at all. Try to follow along.
It's close, and I think you know what comparison I was trying to make … Anyway it's way to much speculation and that's the point I was making to him … Assuming … I never said Duran could do what Floyd did and it's irrelevant to me. Because Duran had more than double the fights Floyd had, so he is giving up the critical wear and tear factor, the huge age factor , which is completely different than Floyd fighting , often having the age advantage, the wear and tear advantage, and at times the C-W advantages in some of his biggest fights … And again Floyd only had 50 fights. So to assume he is successful in 71 fights is hog wash .. fight 51 for Floyd is an unknown
Ya I got that and addressed it .. as you didn't address my points as usual .. And Floyd doesn't have any bloated numbers because he fought other great while in their prime?? or the age advantage or less wear and tear advantage or C-W advantages … that coin flips both ways as you seem to be missing … so Ya you follow along
Mayweather’s 50 wins include a ton of victims who were top-10 ranked welterweights and junior-middles at the time, without a single loss. This is extremely hard to pull for a naturally smaller fighter, even an ATG.
