Duran vs Floyds resume

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Duran’s 71 was mostly fluff. Floyd’s 50 over two decades is much more difficult. Floyd’s 50 also came with more wear and tear, weight disadvantages, old age, etc. You’re merging Duran’s late career into his 71 for some reason.
     
  2. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It pertains doesn't it? I mean that's what posters are talking about. Some think Duran would do it and some don't based on his inconsistent performance later in his career .. And my point is he had more than double the fights Floyd had and would be giving up these advantages Floyd had as well as age, but Duran fought the better guys
     
  3. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I mean your buddy posted Duran wouldn't do it because he would be to inconsistent later in his career .. well hell Duran is giving up every advantage under the sun , compared to Floyd fighting them … so I don't know but if I had to choose I would lean towards no for the reasons previously stated... but if he did , it would obviously be a much greater accomplishment than Floyd doing it
     
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  4. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Duran matches up well against PBF @ LW. Castillo gave him fits, Duran gives him hell, resumes aside. (even though Merchant & Foreman pointed out by 2nd round Floyd began to complain about his arm/shoulder--Floyd to his credit never talked about it, just gave a rematch)
    Comparing resumes:
    Duran's title shot 28-0 Floyd's 17-0.

    Duran was a Superb inside fighter, stamina galore hands of stone, granite chin but his resume just isn't solid enough to compare. It's a joke by today's fan's standards. If we break out the "cherry picking" goggles, then how do we not label Duran as a master cherry picker?
    A Tomato Can Collector?
    Here's my take: @50 fights, Duran was fighting guys with records of

    1975-09-13 Alirio Acuna 0 3 0
    1975-08-02 Pepe El Toro 2 2 0
    1975-06-03 Jose Peterson 24 14 1
    1975-03-02 Ray Lampkin 29 3 1
    1975-02-15 Andres Salgado 1 4 0
    1974-12-21 Masataka Takayama 21 5 1
    1974-11-16 Adalberto Vanegas 2 0 1
    1974-10-31 Jose Vasquez 4 0 0

    Doing a little boxrec'ing @ 60-1 he takes on Bad ass Bernardo Diaz :bumpwho debuted in 1965.They fought in 1977. His record was 3-5.
    How about the great Ezequiel Ebando at 1-3 in 1978 vs a 64-1 Duran? :risas3: This dude retired 1-11.
    By 1986 he's back to fighting the Jorge Suero boxers who was 0-2 & retired 0-4.:ohno

    Floyd via Resume? 2x Ring FOTY. 3x Per Boxing Writers Association. 6x ESPY winner. Least hit fighter & highest connect ratio since the advent of Compubox. 26-0 In world Title fights. 23 in Lineal Title.

    If we put PBF in the ring with these dudes how does he not end up 60-0? 70-0?
    While I give respect to K. Buchanon as a solid fighter & champ---How can I envision Floyd losing to Buchanon? High maybe, sober, not so. Dude never came close to a so-called legit ABC belt after losing to Duran.

    Mano Y Mano, Duran IMO could whoop Floyd at LW. He gets shut out at every weight class outside LW vs PBF.
    Resume wise, there is absolutely, positively no comparison, rather a contrast.
     
  5. Flash24

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    Not really when that ATG talent is facing fighters that were usually conveniently over the hill, and some deep in the valley. Look deeper at the "name" fighters he faced and when he faced them. Everyone was past prime with the exception of Canelo Alvarez. And Alvarez seemed to get caught up in the moment. If Mayweather Jr thought Alvarez was a serious threat it's very unlikely he would've fought him based on his history at welterweight and above.
     
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  6. Jel

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    In a more condensed period of time, maybe. Over a period of 20 years like Mayweather did it, probably not.

    Duran and Mayweather were very different fighters. It's just as debatable that May could have gone 72-1 in the way Duran achieved it in his career.

    I don't think it's an indication of who was greater, although I consider Duran to be greater than Mayweather myself.
     
  7. Jel

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    You make some fair points about quality of Duran's opposition but I take issue with one of your examples - Ray Lampkin was an excellent fighter and didn't have a poor record. He was a top notch and legit world title contender who was somewhat unfortunate that there were two even better lightweights around in Duran and DeJesus and he gave both of them very tough fights. His name should not be included here.

    As to the idea that Floyd would ever post a shut out against Duran at any weight above lightweight, I think that's pretty unlikely. I'd actually pick the still-prime version of Duran that beat Palomino and Leonard to beat Floyd too but even if he didn't, I don't see Floyd being able to shut out Duran. He'd have his hands full whatever the outcome. I'd say it's more likely that the welterweight version of Floyd doesn't even step in the ring with someone as dangerous as Duran at that point of his career.

    Oh, and you're seriously underrating Ken Buchanan if you think Floyd would have an easy time against him. I'd pick Floyd to edge that one but Buchanan was a top lightweight champion. It's certainly no gimme for Floyd.
     
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  8. Tramell

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    On Ray Lampkin..that's why I post here, sometimes I know, sometimes not. You just upped my game. No shame in saying I don't know much about him, but will check him out!

    In terms of shutouts I''l revisit my post, if I came across that way, not intended, rather whatever the scorecards may be, Floyd IMO wins all above LW.
    As for Ken, I stand by my statement. He was a credible fight & champ, but I got Floyd in a mythical matchup over Ken as well.
     
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  9. Jel

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    It's all good, my friend. That's why I post here too!
     
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  10. Mod-Mania

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    Lol, Duran would beat the living **** out of that overrated, drug cheating, gift receiving ginger nut Canelo andi'd love every minute of it.
     
  11. NoNeck

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    "Lol"= you're angry
     
  12. cuchulain

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    Probably not.

    Duran could beat them all, best for best, but as has been pointed out, he sometimes lacked consistency and could very well have lost one or two along the way.

    Was Duran , at his best, better than Floyd ?

    I think so.

    I think Montreal Duran beats any version of Floyd I've seen so far.

    And for that matter, so does Montreal SRL.
     
  13. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    aposter who has no eyes HE CAN NOT SEE. the eye test watching each fighter tells everything YOUNG POSTERS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT DURANS OP SO LOOK AT PAPER AND DISPARAGE. Pathetic. Morons. Wish I could bet them often. LOSERS AND SOCIETAL PARASITES